Queen Elizabeth II

robbieh said:
What Rascal said there sums it up perfectly. She fulfilled a role with dignity. But a role we certainly don't need.
She was an elderly woman who'd had a wonderful life. But it's now time for Britain to grow up.
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Yes I can't wait for the day Presidents Thatcher, Blair and Johnston as head of State.
 
A fantastic role model and leader in a dignified way for our country. No matter your political or emotional persuasion she did a great deal of good for this country during her long service. Will be greatly missed and thought very fondly of by myself and many others. RIP Queen Elizabeth II - The Greatest Monarch there has ever been.
 
GoatersLeftShin said:
I'm not a monarchist, but I did feel sad when the news was announced today. We've lost something intangible that is irreplaceable.

I think that the Queen was one of the last people in public life who genuinely committed herself to public service. She is from a generation that served the country so admirably in WW2 and led the country as Britain emerged from that period. I remember growing up in the 80s and speaking to WW2 vets and hearing their stories of dedicated service and wanting to serve the country. They had a sense of solidarity and wanted to build a future that was better than what they endured. I think the Queen embodied that generation and that genuine will to serve the country. I think part of me is kind of mourning the passing of that generation of people.

The easy comeback to the point above is that she was born to a wealthy family etc, but she committed herself to her duty. There is no one who could even question her dedication to her service. Of course, no generation is perfect and I'm not saying that but it's a passing of an era. When I look at leaders in public life - in politics, business, sport, religion etc - there's barely any that I regard as being in it to serve others. Selfishness, cheating, scandals and absence of responsibility are the norm now. Very few people have the same sense of duty she had.

I am sure that the Queen spent the majority of her life looking at how the UK changed and how it's place in the world has changed. She saw a a lot and I'm sure there was enough over the years that would've concerned her.

However, I would love to know how she felt about what she saw in the UK in her final days: Young people cannot afford housing, proxy wars with Russia, energy bills putting millions into poverty, choosing between eating and heating, food banks, arguing with our closest European friends. We have Prime Ministers that see no value in uniting the country. We can imagine the UK disintegrating and a united Ireland. We can imagine the NHS collapsing and the BBC too. On top of this we have the climate change problem. I'm not saying that previous Prime Ministers were saints (they weren't) but when you look who she met in the past, she must have been exasperated with who we want to lead us and represent us in this world.

The world and the future just feel unstable and the Queen provided an anchor. That anchor was to the past, to maybe an imagined safer place. However, she remained an anchor in a changing world. Maybe she offered proof that - even during the worst times the UK has been through - we will get through it. And I hope we will do.

As I said, I'm not a monarchist but I do feel that as the Queen passes we have lost something in the UK that we cannot replace. It feels like it's just another part of the country breaking up.

RIP.
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I’ll leave it for another day but I do have particular opinions on where this end of an era will leave Britain/UK.
I think She was both the glue that held the nation together and at the same time highlighted the flaws in the system.
An elected president only lasts a 4 year reign before re-election.
70 years as monarch. Look at the state of her family and the automatic succession.


You are about to realise what a stateswoman you have lost.
 
GoatersLeftShin said:
I'm not a monarchist, but I did feel sad when the news was announced today. We've lost something intangible that is irreplaceable.

I think that the Queen was one of the last people in public life who genuinely committed herself to public service. She is from a generation that served the country so admirably in WW2 and led the country as Britain emerged from that period. I remember growing up in the 80s and speaking to WW2 vets and hearing their stories of dedicated service and wanting to serve the country. They had a sense of solidarity and wanted to build a future that was better than what they endured. I think the Queen embodied that generation and that genuine will to serve the country. I think part of me is kind of mourning the passing of that generation of people.

The easy comeback to the point above is that she was born to a wealthy family etc, but she committed herself to her duty. There is no one who could even question her dedication to her service. Of course, no generation is perfect and I'm not saying that but it's a passing of an era. When I look at leaders in public life - in politics, business, sport, religion etc - there's barely any that I regard as being in it to serve others. Selfishness, cheating, scandals and absence of responsibility are the norm now. Very few people have the same sense of duty she had.

I am sure that the Queen spent the majority of her life looking at how the UK changed and how it's place in the world has changed. She saw a a lot and I'm sure there was enough over the years that would've concerned her.

However, I would love to know how she felt about what she saw in the UK in her final days: Young people cannot afford housing, proxy wars with Russia, energy bills putting millions into poverty, choosing between eating and heating, food banks, arguing with our closest European friends. We have Prime Ministers that see no value in uniting the country. We can imagine the UK disintegrating and a united Ireland. We can imagine the NHS collapsing and the BBC too. On top of this we have the climate change problem. I'm not saying that previous Prime Ministers were saints (they weren't) but when you look who she met in the past, she must have been exasperated with who we want to lead us and represent us in this world.

The world and the future just feel unstable and the Queen provided an anchor. That anchor was to the past, to maybe an imagined safer place. However, she remained an anchor in a changing world. Maybe she offered proof that - even during the worst times the UK has been through - we will get through it. And I hope we will do.

As I said, I'm not a monarchist but I do feel that as the Queen passes we have lost something in the UK that we cannot replace. It feels like it's just another part of the country breaking up.

RIP.
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same here mate - I ma far from a royalist or monarchist but you cannot deny her duty to the country

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to this

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and this image should haunt certain people until the day they die

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Bill Walker said:
Wow, just got up and seen the news, it's a shock.
I have been a Republican most of my life, never believing in inherited titles and Royalty. But I feel a strange kind of sadness and sense of loss.
This Queen Elizabeth has been around all my life and I had great respect for her. I actually feel very sad (unexpectedly). She represented Mother England if that makes any sense as a thoroughly decent and kind figurehead.
She was a fantastic Queen. RIP.
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Very much my thoughts, I'm 58 and remember the street parties of 1977 for the Silver Jubilee, we had a great time, it's hard to believe she lasted a further 45 years on the throne. It was especially sad to see her on her own at her husband's funeral, but at least he'll be by her side tonight.
She was a truly Great Britain, God bless her.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
I’ll leave it for another day but I do have particular opinions on where this end of an era will leave Britain/UK.
I think She was both the glue that held the nation together and at the same time highlighted the flaws in the system.
An elected president only lasts a 4 year reign before re-election.
70 years as monarch. Look at the state of her family and the automatic succession.


You are about to realise what a stateswoman you have lost.
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There’s been lots of things said over the last few years mate about society in Britain and we go about our daily lives and look outside and fuck all is happening other than the usual.

Most of it is hyperbole built from Twitter nonsense and people make it out as if it’s serious, whilst no one else outside of Twitter notices

However, you are right about her, she’s the greatest leader anyone on here will ever know, a pure dedication to her country that none of those cunts in Westminster will ever get close to.
 
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Stephen230 said:
I’ll probably get used to it but for now I can’t hear the words ‘King Charles’ without picturing one of those cute little dogs with the big ears. Quite apt thinking about it actually.
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If he is King Charles - Charles is not a lucky name for UK monarchs - I recall reading some years ago that he would use Phillip as his monicker - however so long has passed its hard to see how that would work given how we have all known him as Charles all our ( and his ) lives
 
i kne albert davy said:
We have one of those don't see any point in changing anything.
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Manty countries have an elected President who appoints a PM ( see France ) - it can be about protocols. A President needs to be greeted by/hold talks with a President - to offer your PM up is seen as a bit insulting I think
 
bluethrunthru said:
If he is King Charles - Charles is not a lucky name for UK monarchs - I recall reading some years ago that he would use Phillip as his monicker - however so long has passed its hard to see how that would work given how we have all known him as Charles all our ( and his ) lives
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He has a few to pick from there's Arthur and George in there somewhere as well but he's going with Charles the third.
 
Bill Walker said:
Wow, just got up and seen the news, it's a shock.
I have been a Republican most of my life, never believing in inherited titles and Royalty. But I feel a strange kind of sadness and sense of loss.
This Queen Elizabeth has been around all my life and I had great respect for her. I actually feel very sad (unexpectedly). She represented Mother England (to one who has long lived abroad) if that makes any sense as a thoroughly decent and kind figurehead.
She was a fantastic Queen. RIP.
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Well said Bill, republican, royalist, whatever, its not too much to ask to show a bit of respect at the passing of a dignified elderly lady is it.
Fair play to you fella.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Manty countries have an elected President who appoints a PM ( see France ) - it can be about protocols. A President needs to be greeted by/hold talks with a President - to offer your PM up is seen as a bit insulting I think
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Especially some of the ones we've had to offer up, thank God we have a Monarch to offer up to visiting heads of state. The last one was one of the very best if not the best.
 
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