Liverpool (A) | PL | Post-Match Thread

[madloaf]

Yes plus 2 draws in the league last season against the team that most folk on here think we are miles better than...odd that, no wins in 5 but we're apparently miles better than them

We're better than them and have been in what, 10 of the last 11 seasons?

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

The result matters because of the history. Nobody is saying this is about winning or losing a league and you know it. No one is saying rather beat Liverpool and lose the league either. You know this too. If you feel differently that’s grand I get it but people coming on saying man up, get some balls etc is absolute fucking nonsense.

Yup its not as life affecting for me. Titles at the end of the season are.

 

[Bluefen]

I am putting this loss (our first of the season no less) firmly at the feet of Pep.

Say what you want about Joao’s mistake—and there is quite a lot to be said—but it should have never been 0-0 by that point in the first place.

The system was wrong, the tactics were wrong, and the sub (1 of 5) were wrong. Our lads generally didn’t play that well, to be sure, but I think a large part of that was down to the formation and tactics: Kev was wasted on the RW, Ilkay was unnecessary, if not actually a hinderance with his instructions, Phil seemingly being told to retain possession at all costs rather than test Milner.

Pep is a genius, and I wouldn’t swap him for any other manager in the world, but he got this one wrong.

I have to agree Cancelo and KdB were occupying the same space and completely nullifying us - should have been changed at half time…

Credit liverpool in the way they set the trap when out Centre halves had the ball but that came from the lack of width - which Mahrez/Grealish would have provided

It was criminal that we didn’t put Milner and Gomez (who had a good game) under a lot more pressure

On the balance liverpool had the better opportunities and deserved it - but we chocked big time… I just hope as pep said last season we don’t regret not killing them off

 

[john blue]

Pep's dipperphobia kicked in again today. Fucking psychological right now. We might need a shrink or something.

think you might be right.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

3 points is 3 points.

Absolutely and the three points we dropped today will not matter one iota in May we will win the league by a distance , because that Dippers are not a threat and Arsenal and Spursy will not last the pace.

 

[blue whippet]

He had 5 full days to recover ! How long does he need ?

clearly longer if he isn't going to be played in his usual position.

 

[Gigant]

Can somebody write down the list of remaining fixtures of City, Arsenal , Liverpool and Tottenham until the World Cup.. just for some table predictions..

 

[Metalartin]

Was this given as a foul?

 

[paulsimpson]

Who said anything about hiding? I won't be hiding from anyone. Lots of Liverpool fans in work tomorrow, but I'll be in as usual. I just don't want to read the mass scouse love in that's on the way. As for Harris, Delaney, Panja etc etc,

Fair enough Jim. Just remind them of last year's title win.

Watch the amazon documentary pep openly admits on their that Liverpool worry him

Worry is akin to fear and has to be conquered.

 

[Lavinda Past]

Who will win us the CL? If Pep cannot do it are you saying sack him?

I've said many times that we won't win the CL under Pep. He failed to deliver it at Bayern, and I don't see him achieving it at City.
Personally, I think he shows the opposition far too much respect, and when it comes to the really important games, invariably outwits himself tactically.

I really don't care if we never win the CL. It's a fraud of a tournament that will probably be consigned to history in the next few years to make way for the Super League.

I'm more than happy winning the PL, and just hope that we can keep doing that when Pep eventually leaves.

 

[come-on-barney]

Absolutely and the three points we dropped today will not matter one iota in May we will win the league by a distance , because that Dippers are not a threat and Arsenal and Spursy will not last the pace.

Not sure about that. Think Arsenal are genuine contenders. Don’t rule out Chelsea.

 

[dronefromsector7G]

Yes plus 2 draws in the league last season against the team that most folk on here think we are miles better than...odd that, no wins in 5 but we're apparently miles better than them

They are better than us are they? 4 league titles to 1 in last 5 years says otherwise. Even the rags have beaten us regularly in the last 10 years but who is better over a season?

 

[Zenmanc]

Fabhinho was falling backwards into him to try to get the free kick.God I hate the dippers and how Thiago was not red carded is a mystery to me

He had a hand full of shirt and he fell... You know full well you'd be crying foul if the roles were reversed. I know I'm biased toward City but a group is a foul. It's so much easier to watch and enjoy/ appreciate the game without the thick City lenses.

 

[come-on-barney]

Can somebody write down the list of remaining fixtures of City, Arsenal , Liverpool and Tottenham until the World Cup.. just for some table predictions..

See the thread

 

[Bluefen]

It was a disappointing game and I feared the worse when I saw the line up, like many others did. Liverpool have had quite a few injury problems and we should've been ripping Milner a new one quite honestly and pushing for a penalty. I don't know why KdB wasn't in the middle as he does his best work there. He wasn't anywhere the level he can play today though.

I was disappointed with their goal. We basically left Salah with Cancelo and, let's be honest, he's not a good defender. It was such a simple goal and the kind of goal we shouldn't be conceding. I completely understand why we had players up but given he's not as quick as Walker he was left exposed and gifted it to Salah. It wasn't like we had to win the game, a draw would've been a great result.

Ultimately though, I've watched this game before. Pep overthinks the big game, moves our players around to cope with the opposition. And then we get beat. I just wish we could go to Anfield, for once, with the same team that played the week before and won. Let them worry about how to stop Haaland, KdB, Bernardo, Foden etc for once! We rarely get beat by a phenomenal piece of skill against Liverpool, it's just a ball over the top - that's it.

The sub was pointless. When we're winning 5-0 we get 5 changes and kill the game off. Today we had one - I'd have played Alvarez in the second half to run at Milner to be honest as I think he'd have enjoyed that.

Anyway, I'm sure it's the usual blip and we'll go back to our normal team and beat the opposition 4-0.

Cancelo nearly got caught again 5 mins after the goal with exactly the same ball

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Was this given as a foul?

Yes, yellow for Haaland

 

[HarrytheBlue]

Easy to say that their endless stream of long balls should have warned us to have more of an insurance policy at the back as the game wore on.

 

[Stelea]

And some say Gomez is the player no chance.

Even Gomez isn’t a true left back.
The only proper left back we have signed since Kolorov and Clichy has been Mendy, although enough said about him.

 

[Blue and true]

Black cloud? What a load of utter shite

Nope. The truth. If you don't think one of his mandates was to win at least one CL with City then I don't know what to tell you. And what do you think the narrative will be if he doesn't win it with us? It will be dragged up time immemorial to tarnish his reputation.

He doesn't leave here a complete success if he doesn't win it at least once. He can't keep failing in Europe, and we, as fans, can't keep brushing it under the carpet as though it isn't a big deal. It's as simple as that.

 

[CityPar]

No sympathy for us today. De Bruyne disappeared most of the game. Cancelo was exposed several times. He can't defend for toffee. Haaland had an off day. Only Foden and Silva for me got decent pass marks. We got what we deserved.....nothing. We're far too soft at Anfield. We're beaten before a ball is kicked. Only win in 20 years was when there was not crowd and Liverpool were on a shocking home run. We have work to do now as the London clubs will be a real challenge this season. So disappointed we didn't kill Liverpool off. Big chance and we blew the audition.