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Well if Truss goes and Boris comes back then strictly speaking we won't need an election will we as he was elected anyhow and went on to get ousted?
Now if Hunt or Gove becomes PM that's another matter as that would be 2 unelected leaders.
 
Cricket Blue said:
Well if Truss goes and Boris comes back then strictly speaking we won't need an election will we as he was elected anyhow and went on to get ousted?
Now if Hunt or Gove becomes PM that's another matter as that would be 2 unelected leaders.
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Thing with it is Johnson was ousted by the PCP - the very Party you suggest he could lead. He is wanted back by the membership - the same batshit crazy membership that wanted Truss over Sunak.

If thats what is happening anyone can surely see how its all just swirling around the plug hole and heading down the drain. Its just not feasible.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Thing with it is Johnson was ousted by the PCP - the very Party you suggest he could lead. He is wanted back by the membership - the same batshit crazy membership that wanted Truss over Sunak.

If thats what is happening anyone can surely see how its all just swirling around the plug hole and heading down the drain. Its just not feasible.
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But anyone has got to better than Truss even Boris?
Is it me or do they not know what the fuck they are doing anymore?
 
dave_blue12 said:
@Octavian

Sorry, omitted to quote you.

Whoosh !

We need to stop behaving like we are big dicks in the world and unite with others like our European cousins.

Our nuclear ‘deterrent’ is part of what ails us, leading us to gob off like Johnson over Ukraine. Any response should be part of a collective.

We have many of the poorest regions in the whole of Europe where people live in hopeless poverty and yet we spend billions on nuclear weapons so arseholes like Johnson can stride around the world like billy big bollocks.
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I can’t agree with that at all.

Having the nuclear deterrent isn’t us behaving like we’re big dicks, it’s protection in a more dangerous world, that’s ever increasing in how dangerous it is.

You seem to view every aspect of Britain as negative and through that lens you seem to want us to weaken ourselves further, which is madness considering Russia would happily wipe us out without a second thought. There are plenty of places in Europe who have poorer regions, there are also many places in the US more poor than our poorest spots. Don’t get me wrong, we’re in the shit and this conservative government have been a disgrace but the UK is still a good place and will improve under a new Labour government.

I can’t stand these Tories and Boris Johnson but one of the things he got right was his support of Zelenskyy and the Ukraine, you only need to see how Johnson was viewed by Zelenskyy to realise this, we’ve been one of their best supporters, after the US. We have done it as part of coordinated support with NATO and have actually carried ourselves quite well in that.

You’re not pro Russian are you? Everything you are saying is what Putin would want.

Britain not to stand up against him, get rid of our nuclear weapons and fall back into our shell to let them and China redraw the maps of the world and move into a power vacuum.

We’re not a super power, but we still have enough to be a valued member of NATO and we have a responsibility to stand with our allies in the US and EU.

Edit: you also didn’t answer my question I asked you to answer directly - and you didn’t retract your original statement

Poor form!
 
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Cricket Blue said:
But anyone has got to better than Truss even Boris?
Is it me or do they not know what the fuck they are doing anymore?
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Nope - thats the point - the Tories have no-one better - she is it - that is them - bereft of any talent - hollowed out by Johnson - did you see the Cabinet coming out of Number 10 yesterday?
 
bluethrunthru said:
Nope - thats the point - the Tories have no-one better - she is it - that is them - bereft of any talent - hollowed out by Johnson - did you see the Cabinet coming out of Number 10 yesterday?
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Sunak would have been infinitely better
 
bluethrunthru said:
Nope - thats the point - the Tories have no-one better - she is it - that is them - bereft of any talent - hollowed out by Johnson - did you see the Cabinet coming out of Number 10 yesterday?
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Maybe it needs an ex sportsman or actor to become an MP and go on to be PM in the future and I'm not joking. Like David Gower or Ian Botham?
 
dave_blue12 said:
Another one who thinks we are still a world power. We are not and haven’t been for 50 years

All the countries of the world who do not have nuclear weapons, which is most, seem to get on just fine.

We need to stop believing we are a world super power and cut our cloth accordingly. This delusion, of which Brexit is a manifestation, is a proverbial ball and chain holding this country back.
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Don't upset him, he's barely over the queen croaking..
 
metalblue said:
A little dramatic. I’ve always opted out of WTD as has everyone in the industries I’ve worked in. Its not like we’ve then been at the coal face for 23 hours a day.

In any case it seems a ridiculous thing to blame anything on. It’s not like anyone who doesn’t opt out is only able to work a few hours a week, it’s 48 (averaged) which is well above typical working hours anyway. It probably plays well to the gallery about pesky Europeans with their work-shy attitude - which is clearly nonsense. If I went into my job spouting nonsense and mistruths I’d expect to be asked to leave fairly quickly. For politicians chatting shit is a prerequisite, they just twist the truth for their own ends and it’s dull as fuck. No matter your political persuasion we all deserve better
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It does mean that companies will expect far more hours to be worked or they will get rid of you.
 
Octavian said:
Worked for the Ukraine to be fair.

What a leader they’ve got.
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Wasn't Ronald Regan an actor?
Marjan Sarec is president of Slovenia?
Why not here?

Yet the previous poster suggested I was smoking something
 
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