The Conservative Party

BobKowalski said:
No. Brexit means the state will have to be larger, ie more regulatory bodies, more custom staff, more of everything. The functions that we subcontracted out to the EU now have to be done in-house. Additionally, Brexit increased the red tape and admin for the State and industry to deal with. The sooner people engage with reality the better off we will be.

This living in la-la land, is why markets are increasingly skittish over the UK’s prospects and credit rating agencies keep lowering our rating.

In short, we have run out road and unicorns.
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agreed - we have to do all that to enable us to trade with the rest of the world. A big fantasy contained in Brexit was the world would be grateful and honoured to do loads of dealing with an independent UK because we are the UK and do things our own way. None of the Brexit lot could consider the possibility that the rest of the world may say "no thanks - we do deals like this, with these requirements and you will need to comply to deal with us" - Some would be shocked to think that country A may say you need to provide this certificate to prove what you are trading whereas country B could say you need a copy of our certificate in triplicate to trade with us - we don't recognise A's certificate as valid.
We were told we were being negative and talking the country down - turns out some of us knew that this shit did not rely on belief and a handshake.
 
BayernMan said:
Why do right wing posters like to use sophistry to hide there callous views on human life as clever or insightful?
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Because it works on gullible fools and they assume it works on everyone else.

Some of the leading right-wing intellectuals Scruton or Sowell have been shown to be zealous cranks with very little understanding of some of the topics they talk about.
 
Jack Hackett said:
I think I should make my position clear on capital punishment.

I’m in favour of bringing it back for the following:

1. Murder of anyone serving in the armed forces, police and other emergency services.
2. Anyone who kills a child.

That’s it
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You value the life of an army engineer more than a woman who works for a charity or a racist met officer over a homeless man with mental health issues as examples.

Wow
 
hilts said:
You value the life of an army engineer more than a woman who works for a charity or a racist met officer over a homeless man with mental health issues as examples.

Wow
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You’ll get a message suggesting your response is a strawman soon.

I think Jack might have been on the sauce tonight and engaged in some late night fishing.
 
Jack Hackett said:
I think I should make my position clear on capital punishment.

I’m in favour of bringing it back for the following:

1. Murder of anyone serving in the armed forces, police and other emergency services.
2. Anyone who kills a child.

That’s it
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That’s insane. So if someone kills my mum or dad their lives are worth less than the above?

Unbelievable!
 
hilts said:
Bloke on sky saying it looks like he will get over 100 and be in a fight with Sunak. This would not be good.
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We’re through the looking glass now. Who knows what is the best case scenario! Sunak might create a semblance of normality whereas Johnson might be so nuclear that MPs resign the whip and vote through a VONC and trigger an election that sees them not even being the official opposition.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
We’re through the looking glass now. Who knows what is the best case scenario! Sunak might create a semblance of normality whereas Johnson might be so nuclear that MPs resign the whip and vote through a VONC and trigger an election that sees them not even being the official opposition.
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We do not want it to go to members with Boris in the running. Those fuckers are mental.
 
hilts said:
Bloke on sky saying it looks like he will get over 100 and be in a fight with Sunak. This would not be good.
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Depends what people want to see. That’s the best possible scenario for ensuring long term damage to the conservatives.

Short to mid term for us as a country, agree, that wouldn’t be good at all.

Still don’t think it’ll go to the members though even if he does get 100.
 
fucks sake - Liz Truss is drawing up her leaving PM Honours List after just 44 days in office and Johnson is booed in the airport waiting to board his plane to leave the Dominican Republic - just when you think this lot can sink no lower
 
Conservative MPs seem to be pushing the fact that they think Boris has a clear mandate to lead the country again ! Well at one point the British public did give him a mandate to lead, but that was before he turned out to be a disaster and was sacked. He lost that mandate from that point onwards .
 
lonestay said:
Conservative MPs seem to be pushing the fact that they think Boris has a clear mandate to lead the country again ! Well at one point the British public did give him a mandate to lead, but that was before he turned out to be a disaster and was sacked. He lost that mandate from that point onwards .
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These cunts want it both ways. According to our unbelievably shite electoral system the only people that gave that **** a mandate were the voters of Uxbridge.

Anyone who tries to defend this antiquated and undemocratic system can go fuck themselves. It’s a fucking disgrace and a national embarrassment. The notion that MPs serve the best interests of their constituents is a lie.

What the fuck does it say about us as a nation if this **** gets back into office? The mental gymnastics thst these cunts are performing is a fucking outrage.

And all the while, Rome is burning.
 
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