Rishi Sunak

[bluemoon32]

Great, yet another ****

 

[bluenova]

Have you thought about becoming Rishi’s spokesperson?

You woke up this morning and chose violence!

After my discourse with Octavian, I think I might have woken up in opposite land :/

 

[Octavian]

After my discourse with Octavian, I think I might have woken up in opposite land :/

You’ve woken up on the wrong side of the bed ya daft sod ;)

 

[meltonblue]

Who by?

Cain and Cummings, other sources too. Bear in mind too he gave that account when he was struggling against Truss in the polls, it backfired on him a bit on him though as he wasn’t seen as honest.

He then doubled down on it further and said about challenging lockdown throughout and dissenting voices being shut down and then got really challenged on it.

 

[bluenova]

You’ve woken up on the wrong side of the bed ya daft sod ;)

Are you sure you don't mean the same side of the bed, but just a little bit later ;)

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

After my discourse with Octavian, I think I might have woken up in opposite land :/

Totally opposite or both on the right side, but to varying degrees?

;-)

 

[Gabriel]

 

[I'm With Stupid]

So are we all agreed that this Tory leader is going to be different? The one that was fully on board with the previous government only 2 months ago?

 

[Octavian]

Cain and Cummings, other sources too. Bear in mind too he gave that account when he was struggling against Truss in the polls, it backfired on him a bit on him though as he wasn’t seen as honest.

I don’t know if they were telling the truth or not but Cummings is probably one of the least trustworthy men in political history in this country and Cain was a Johnson loyalist, who had just see his boss have Sunak turn on him.

Again, they might be telling the truth but I wouldn’t take those two as gospel.

 

[Octavian]

So are we all agreed that this Tory leader is going to be different? The one that was fully on board with the previous government only 2 months ago?

He wasn’t though was he.

He literally called Truss’s plans “fairy tale economics”.

He’s a return to professional, potentially boring politics and we need that.

 

[Octavian]

Are you sure you don't mean the same side of the bed, but just a little bit later ;)

Just make your side, that’s all I ask

 

[bluemonkey71]

I’m still stunned they haven’t used a windfall tax on the companies to offset the black hole.

 

[NorthamptonBlue]

I’m still stunned they haven’t used a windfall tax on the companies to offset the black hole.

I suspect that’s on its way

 

[meltonblue]

I don’t know if they were telling the truth or not but Cummings is probably one of the least trustworthy men in political history in this country and Cain was a Johnson loyalist, who had just see his boss have Sunak turn on him.

Again, they might be telling the truth but I wouldn’t take those two as gospel.

There was plenty of other sources too. Bear in mind Cummings was a big supporter of Sunak though so it was out of character for him to say it (and for him to give credit to Johnson as it was at the peak time he was criticising him)

Also when Sunak said it too was highly dubious. He did also then spend a week or two spouting what was clearly bollocks about how things apparently worked across the whole pandemic.

 

[NorthamptonBlue]

How long before the first no confidence letter hits Brady’s pigeonhole?

Boris is writing his now. Gove is dictating it. Just like they always did with their homework at Eton.

 

[meltonblue]

I’m still stunned they haven’t used a windfall tax on the companies to offset the black hole.

They did though, Sunak did it before he left as chancellor. It’s just whether it was enough given the companies could offset it.

 

[Octavian]

There was plenty of other sources too. Bear in mind Cummings was a big supporter of Sunak though so it was out of character for him to say it (and for him to give credit to Johnson as it was at the peak time he was criticising him)

Also when Sunak said it too was highly dubious. He did also then spend a week or two spouting what was clearly bollocks about how things apparently worked across the whole pandemic.

Reading the Guardian article on it, it seems Sunak was claiming his concerns had push back and he was blocked from discussing it and that those disputing those claims are saying he was re-writing history from a perspective of only him having those concerns, rather than everyone there having them?

They weren’t claiming he didn’t raise concerns about lockdown, they are disputing that he was blocked from having them and others didn’t have them.

“Huge admirer of Rishi Sunak but his position on lockdown is simply wrong,” Cain tweeted. He said it was “misleading to suggest we weren’t having those conversations”.
No 10, the Department of Health and Social Care, and the Treasury “met multiple times daily and discussed the trade-offs”, Cain insisted.

 

[meltonblue]

Reading the Guardian article on it, it seems Sunak was claiming his concerns had push back and he was blocked from discussing it and that those disputing those claims are saying he was re-writing history from a perspective of only him having those concerns, rather than everyone there having them?

They weren’t claiming he didn’t raise concerns about lockdown, they are disputing that he was blocked from having them and others didn’t have them.

Right, that’s when he doubled down on it and was what I was referring to when I said it was pretty clearly bollocks (and dangerous tbh).

On the omicron strain and the lockdown that he said he stopped, that was disputed too.

 

[mat]

If you close your eyes and listen to him talk, he sounds exactly like Blair.... and for that reason, I'm out....

Same vocal media training.

Big hand gestures etc.

 

[meltonblue]

Same vocal media training.

Big hand gestures etc.

Judging by his speech today, he missed a few lessons!

Blair came to my workplace when he was in power and off the cuff gave a speech to about 2000 of us, whatever his other faults he was a superb orator at that point.