Pundits/co Commentators?

Hes the left back remember said:
Has anyone ever heard anything they have not already seen by a pundit or given an insight that we hadnt seen ourselves?
Dion Dublin- That was a good run ,he crossed it but the header went wide!
John Hartson- Good pass that but nothing on the end of it.

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Or Ally McCoist too busy undoing his kecks over Ronaldo to even open his eyes to see he didn't score the goal
 
I think the amount of live football shown these days has pretty much saturated the co-commentary market.

It’s also probably made most run out of new things to say, whilst the fan has never listened so hard for errors or slights on their teams.

Only McCoist was tolerated on here before the WC, but that was probably more down to the fact he’s sparsely heard. Even he is getting pelters now.

The obvious end game seems each club streaming their own games with sycophantic commentators and co-commentators.

A good example is Micah Richards. He’s a shit pundit, but has a funny laugh and was one of ours, so will be tolerated.
 
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Why do we even need commentary? I know what I’m watching. I don’t need it at the game. Co commentators are utterly pointless too. Give me crowd noise and match sounds, BBC once offered that during a previous tourney.

As for in studio pundits. Haven’t watched or listened to them in years. No point. And for all the 2 faced self righteousness pundits at the WC, you can do the exact same job in a warm studio in London/Salford/John O Groats, and make more of a statement not going over the Qatar. I get the feeling that all the pitch side stuff, studio pundits etc is for armchair fans who probably have never been near a stadium or never will.

Some of the pundits and hosts have never stood on a terrace or been to a potentially tasty away game.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
I think the amount of live football shown these days has pretty much saturated the co-commentary market.

It’s also probably made most run out of new things to say, whilst the fan has never listened so hard for errors or slights on their teams.

Only McCoist was tolerated on here before the WC, but that was probably more down to the fact he’s sparsely heard. Even he is getting pelters now.

The obvious end game seems each club streaming their own games with sycophantic commentators and co-commentators.

A good example is Michah Richards. He’s a shit pundit, but has a funny laugh and was one of ours, so will be tolerated.
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Not for much longer.

I do wish Nedum could get a decent run.
 
BobbyJohnstone said:
Why do we even need commentary? I know what I’m watching. I don’t need it at the game. Co commentators are utterly pointless too. Give me crowd noise and match sounds, BBC once offered that during a previous tourney.

As for in studio pundits. Haven’t watched or listened to them in years. No point. And for all the 2 faced self righteousness pundits at the WC, you can do the exact same job in a warm studio in London/Salford/John O Groats, and make more of a statement not going over the Qatar. I get the feeling that all the pitch side stuff, studio pundits etc is for armchair fans who probably have never been near a stadium or never will.

Some of the pundits and hosts have never stood on a terrace or been to a potentially tasty away game.
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Without commentators, we'd never have gems like "You have to say that's magnificent", "they think it's all over", "just look at his face", "it's up for grabs now..." or dare I say "Agueroooooo!!!".

The problem I have is that the commentators of today seem to be searching for their own iconic moment. Martin Tyler has been at it for years. Then you have co-commentators like Mark Lawrenson and Steve McManaman who don't seem to want to be there, others who openly admit they know nothing about one of the teams they're being paid to tell us about or people like Neville who use their platform to push their own agenda.
 
Too many ex-players with their biased support/views/agendas, others forcing studio bantz & constant references to their own player career (Wio can't do a stint of punditry without mentioning what he did at old scaffold a decade ago)

Not enough ex-managers to give us a managers-eyed perspective on things.
 
Boo or Boo-urns said:
Too many ex-players with their biased support/views/agendas, others forcing studio bantz & constant references to their own player career (Wio can't do a stint of punditry without mentioning what he did at old scaffold a decade ago)

Not enough ex-managers to give us a managers-eyed perspective on things.
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The other issue is that former players and managers don’t need to be pundits these days if they have been successful.
 
Hes the left back remember said:
Has anyone ever heard anything they have not already seen by a pundit or given an insight that we hadnt seen ourselves?
Dion Dublin- That was a good run ,he crossed it but the header went wide!
John Hartson- Good pass that but nothing on the end of it.

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I learnt from Dion Dublin that stairs lead upstairs
 
BobbyJohnstone said:
Why do we even need commentary? I know what I’m watching. I don’t need it at the game. Co commentators are utterly pointless too. Give me crowd noise and match sounds, BBC once offered that during a previous tourney.

As for in studio pundits. Haven’t watched or listened to them in years. No point. And for all the 2 faced self righteousness pundits at the WC, you can do the exact same job in a warm studio in London/Salford/John O Groats, and make more of a statement not going over the Qatar. I get the feeling that all the pitch side stuff, studio pundits etc is for armchair fans who probably have never been near a stadium or never will.

Some of the pundits and hosts have never stood on a terrace or been to a potentially tasty away game.
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Your remote has a mute button.

Seems incredibly easy for you to not hear commentary while all the people who do like it can enjoy it.
 
domalino said:
Your remote has a mute button.

Seems incredibly easy for you to not hear commentary while all the people who do like it can enjoy it.
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Believe me I use it. Always have music on. But that’s for the suggestion
 
Most pundits are at the game, live. They can look around and see the entire field. So it's very likely they'll see something off camera and report it.
 
To play devil's advocate, there isn't much time for co-commentators (or pundits to a lesser extent) to really analyse anything. Other sports generally have frequent breaks in play that provide time for analysis. Then you have sports such as motor racing, where even though things don't stop, not enough is going on to demand attention at any one time.
 
I’ll take a Ray Hudson any day of the week. He waxes poetic with gems like “the Real Madrid fans are in orgasmic jubilation” or “Tom Cruise?? He couldn’t whiff the jock of one of these athletes without fading dead away”.
 
Hes the left back remember said:
MooI think commentary is ok, I know i am a FOC but Brian Moore,Barry Davies , Coleman,Wolstenholme etc never had/needed a second voice! interesting to see similar comments.
However dont get me started on the necessity to fly and house BBC' pundits/experts ' to Qatar at our expense!! For what??
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They only did one game a week though. It’s every day for some commentators these days, including travel.
 
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