24 Hours In Police Custody

Alan Harper's Tash said:
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I’m slightly less noncey but yeah, I suspect we have different outlooks on life due to how we ended up where we are at this moment in time mate.
You’re married to a Vicar, have great morals and seem an all round good guy.
As long as there’s always far more of the population with your way of life than mine then the world should probably just about continue without full blown anarchy on the streets.
 
Kompany Car said:
I don’t think it’s paranoia, it’s clear that the ONS the Home Office and opposition parties know there is a serious issue with the number of more serious crimes against individuals being committed and the rates of conviction.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...s-at-20-year-high-as-charge-rate-hits-new-low

The police and courts are meant to uphold the law but when they are failing to do so, is it any surprise that people take more extreme measures.
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I wasn't talking in general terms. In some cases it isn't. But keeping a knife on your bedside cabinet or under your pillow when you live in a leafy suburb with low crime rates is more likely to be paranoia.

Do you think most people doing that look up crime rates first?
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
I wasn't talking in general terms. In some cases it isn't. But keeping a knife on your bedside cabinet or under your pillow when you live in a leafy suburb with low crime rates is more likely to be paranoia.

Do you think most people doing that look up crime rates first?
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more danger from the psycho wife sleep walking
 
Phil1 said:
I’m slightly less noncey but yeah, I suspect we have different outlooks on life due to how we ended up where we are at this moment in time mate.
You’re married to a Vicar, have great morals and seem an all round good guy.
As long as there’s always far more of the population with your way of life than mine then the world should probably just about continue without full blown anarchy on the streets.
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We both deal with all kinds in society though, mate. Yours in you watering holes and ours via churches and our front door.

I don’t get involved in the religious side of things, but I often take people to their local pay point to put money on their gas and electric whilst using my aging knowledge of the benefit system to work out what they can apply for whilst their UC has been suspended, which it can be for minute reasons these days. There aren’t “targets” for DWP staff to achieve, but they are rewarded if they suspend a certain number per week.

There are less “scrotes” where we are now, but having lived in Gorton for 4 years, we got to know quite a few and they ranged from utter dicks who didn’t give a shit about anybody or anything to those that turned to crime to exist. We don’t have a magic wand, so all we can do is chat and listen to them and try to direct them to a more lawful existence. Our success rate will be nowhere near 100%, but every one we change helps, right?

A lot don’t seem to have a sense of purpose. If we could give them that, with a way to earn their way through life, feeling valued, we’d have a lot less crime.

How we do that, I don’t know, but there are examples where someone respected in the community steps up and becomes the role model for these people.
 
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I didn't watch it but the law is pretty clear. You are entitled to defend yourself but only up to the point that the threat to you or your property is over. If you pursue and attack someone who is attempting to flee the scene and offers no threat, then you've committed a crime.

My understanding is that if someone is climbing or even trying to climb out of a window or exit another way, you can be prosecuted if you attack and injure them.

So to get in your car and drive after them, effectivly trying to kill or seriously injure them, is completely stupid and clearly falls well within the scope of criminal behaviour.

Clearly the guy wasn't thinking straight and doesn't seem to have taken effective action once he committed the offence. But he's committed a fairly egregious criminal act. Whether it was the right decision to jail him is another matter but I have no idea what the sentencing guidelines are.
 
Stoned Rose said:
Watched it just now.

The lad was silly to pursue them once the threat had gone. That’s no longer protecting your family or home.

He was even sillier blabbing like a 12 year old girl to the dibble at every fucking opportunity.

Never, ever speak to the dibble.
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Typical of somebody with no experience of dealing with them. He wrongly thought he'd done the right thing stopping two thieves getting away and they'd overlook he'd smashed his car into them nearly killing them in the process. Everytime he opened his mouth he screwed himself more.
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
indeed he is, but the idea that burglars, and it's complete speculation that had he not been at home just what would those burglars have done are able to sue for damages just sticks in a lot of people's craws!
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Unless there’s a civil restraint order in place anyone can sue anyone DE! I’d be careful I were you :-)
 
Stoned Rose said:
Watched it just now.

The lad was silly to pursue them once the threat had gone. That’s no longer protecting your family or home.

He was even sillier blabbing like a 12 year old girl to the dibble at every fucking opportunity.

Never, ever speak to the dibble.
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I get that and to an extent I agree. But he said he didn't know what they'd taken (if anything) and he's a sparky, so all his equipment was in the garage.

He obviously just lost it and went, we all lose it at some point. I'm not sure how it was in the public interest to charge him. I don't feel safer... or want people to feel like they have no power or any rights if they get broken into.

Yes he was silly, but I would bet that half of us on here would do similar.

I had my car broken into the other week and photography stuff taken. But before that my car and house has been attempted 4 times in 18 months. Once I went out with a pool cue i have next to the bed.... If i catch one and smash it over their back/head as they're running away with whatever they've taken, would you say that's wrong? I wouldn't
 
These sorts of threads can go round in circles and ive put all my 2p’s in but ill leave it with this..

About a year ago my pal was woken in the night to find 3 plebs in balaclavas on his landing.
He chased them off out the house and rang the filth.
Anyway, police advised him to have a little something bedside , maybe a big torch , a big heavy metal, foot long torch … everyone has a torch … dont they?
 
Nethermoor said:
I get that and to an extent I agree. But he said he didn't know what they'd taken (if anything) and he's a sparky, so all his equipment was in the garage.

He obviously just lost it and went, we all lose it at some point. I'm not sure how it was in the public interest to charge him. I don't feel safer... or want people to feel like they have no power or any rights if they get broken into.

Yes he was silly, but I would bet that half of us on here would do similar.

I had my car broken into the other week and photography stuff taken. But before that my car and house has been attempted 4 times in 18 months. Once I went out with a pool cue i have next to the bed.... If i catch one and smash it over their back/head as they're running away with whatever they've taken, would you say that's wrong? I wouldn't
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Unfortunately the law says it’s wrong and when you’re up in front of a judge and jury that is what will most likely count. As this case involved a high speed car chase which could have endangered others and the damage caused to the scrotes was considerable the punishment he received was correct.
That’s not me agreeing btw, just the reality of the situation.
 
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