24 Hours In Police Custody

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Some right cunts around these days

I love you x

 

[domalino]

If I'd have been on the jury by the letter of the law I'd agree he'd been reckless and stupid but I'd also understand why he took those actions. I'd realise he was unlikely to ever be in this situation again and the stress he'd suffered leading up to and during the trial would have taken a huge toll on him and his family. On that basis I'd have voted not guilty as sending him to prison served no real purpose.

Fuck me I hope you're never on a jury.

The punishment for what you're claiming you'd do is up to 2 years in prison.

 

[mancityvstoke]

"I made a mistake" doesn't work when it's not a split second decision. Thinking about going after them was a mistake. Getting the car keys was a mistake. Leaving his house was a mistake. Getting in the car was a mistake. Speeding after them was a mistake, ramming them off the road and taking out 2 other vehicles was a mistake.

He put the public in danger, when he and his family were not in any.

I'm glad I'm not your neighbour either, don't need wannabe vigilantes going around trying to kill people.

replying to you anytime is always a mistake.

Ignore

 

[domalino]

replying to you anytime is always a mistake.

Ignore

Yeah, you've got no response because you know your view on this case belongs in a 9 year old's fantasy, and as a society we have evolved past "he tried to burgle me so I'm allowed to chase him down and try to kill him".

Which is why this guy has gone to jail.

 

[Bluesince1979]

Fuck me I hope you're never on a jury.

The punishment for what you're claiming you'd do is up to 2 years in prison.

Whole heartedly agree with him

 

[Bluesince1979]

Yeah, you've got no response because you know your view on this case belongs in a 9 year old's fantasy, and as a society we have evolved past "he tried to burgle me so I'm allowed to chase him down and try to kill him".

Which is why this guy has gone to jail.

Also why as a society crime is through the roof, burglaries, car thefts, etc are at epidemic levels

 

[paulchapo]

If they’d been able to prove he’d intended to hit them with the car then he’d have been charged with attempted section 18 which carries a maximum sentence of life imprisonment. Some prosecutors (erroneously imo) would have stuck attempted murder on the indictment in this circumstance, although that would be very hard to prove. The offence for which he was convicted is by its nature is one of recklessness, as it is the conflation of the dangerous driving and the serious injuries that were caused by the driving, so that point is moot.

The answer to your question at the end is there is nothing preventing anyone commencing a claim, but whether it will succeed is (I think) highly unlikely based on the doctrine of volenti.

Volenti non fit injuria - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Certainly if there was a legitimate way for a judge to find volenti on the facts, then they would for public policy reasons.

You can’t have scumbags like this routinely making and winning claims as it makes a mockery of and undermines public confidence in the system and wastes court time.

It's a sobering lesson to how even when you set out with the right well meaning intentions it can quickly go disastrously wrong with serious consequences. Sadly it won't prevent the scumbags from committing crime but it will stop more law abiding citizens from getting involved in trying to stop such crime.

When you think how insurance policies can refuse to pay out on claims if somebody has had an alcoholic drink, it's ludicrous a claim from someone injured in the process of committing a crime has a case.

 

[domalino]

Whole heartedly agree with him

Well then you both deserve your 2 year jail sentences for juror misconduct.

The magistrate or judge is the person who gets to decide leniency, not a juror.

Perhaps people not knowing the basic tenets of the criminal justice system is why "crime is through the roof".

 

[domalino]

It's a sobering lesson to how even when you set out with the right well meaning intentions it can quickly go disastrously wrong with serious consequences.

What were the well meaning intentions here?

"I'm going to fuck up the bastards who tried to steal my bike" isn't a good intention.

 

[paulchapo]

Fuck me I hope you're never on a jury.

The punishment for what you're claiming you'd do is up to 2 years in prison.

I sincerely hope I am and in such a case.

Not claiming I would do. If I decide the bloke isn't guilty in my mind then as a member of a jury I have the right to vote that way.