And when you're in the same situation and decide to live out your vigilante fantasy, you'll probably kill an innocent bystander and be in prison for a decade.
That'll teach those burglars.
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24 Hours In Police Custody
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And when you're in the same situation and decide to live out your vigilante fantasy, you'll probably kill an innocent bystander and be in prison for a decade.
That'll teach those burglars.
Maybe , but does he not have leeway?
He gave him the smallest possible sentence for causing injury by serious driving.
No, the good intentions were , " The scumbags are trying to break into my property I'm going to try and stop them getting away."
I sincerely hope you're put in a similar position Mr self righteous let's see how that works out for you.
Stopping someone running away how? Follow the train of thought. What were his good intentions when he caught up with them? Was he going to stop them getting away by -
By asking politely? Now that would be well intentioned.
Or by ramming them off the road? That's not well intentioned.
gordondaviesmoustache
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I’ve just said I don’t think they have a case.When you think how insurance policies can refuse to pay out on claims if somebody has had an alcoholic drink, it's ludicrous a claim from someone injured in the process of committing a crime has a case.
gordondaviesmoustache
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Can’t disagree with much you’ve posted there, mate.A custodial sentence for repeat offenders is probably the best thing that you could do as it gives a chance to reform the individuals. The real issue is that the reform that we provide doesn’t fix the underlying issues which on the whole are related to addiction, mental health and poverty (often as a result of no education).
As regards doing the same thing over and over which is often misquoted as being said by Einstein and prior to that Benjamin Franklin; maybe you’re right it does need an alternative approach.
The question then comes as to which direction to move, the current status quo doesn’t achieve the desired results. Some people will cite the low rates of reoffending in Norway and their liberal approach to prison, but considering you can get a short custodial sentence for driving under the influence or exceeding the speed limit by more than 50% it does skew the figures.
Likewise you could also look at Saudi Arabia that also has low reoffending rates, but it’s difficult to continue your offending with a missing hand or even harder without a head.
It’s undoubtedly a complex issue, however, regardless of which approach you take, the general public need to have faith in what is being done and at its heart the rule of law is being applied in a “fair play” manner (as the president of the Law Society recently noted). The courts are a public body and just as politicians, they are there to serve the people.
gordondaviesmoustache
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I was talking about the sentencing, not the offending. I am well aware of the increase in car thefts from burglaries in recent years.It is the norm , i live in a nice enough area and there are burglaries and car thefts on a nightly basis.
My pal had his van nicked last night, rang police and because he doesnt have cctv they wont even come out. I understand totally why not, what have they got to go on? But it enforces my point that it is pretty normal now and barely worth reporting
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With overcrowding in prisons there won't be any police cells left for an hour never mind 24
And when you're in the same situation and decide to live out your vigilante fantasy, you'll probably kill an innocent bystander and be in prison for a decade.
That'll teach those burglars.
Trust me I've been in a fair few similar positions and I've meted out my own brand of instant justice. The scumbags on the receiving end have rightly realised they richly deserved it and got away lightly. Or they've run away thinking the same thing. The big mistake the poor bloke made was the one a lot of people not familiar with the world of scumbags make. They play by the rules and don't understand the legal system so get eaten up.
If it is, which I doubt, do you think I'd be stupid enough to cite that as a reason? I'd just vote not guilty.
So you're bragging about how you'll commit a crime to pollute the justice system and get away with it, bragging about how you've "meted out ... vigilante justice" but also want to complain about criminals getting away with crime and the state of policing.
Just a big old ball of contradictions and hypocrisy.