Question Time

I don't know what Burnham was on about ("all TPE services from Leeds to Manchester cancelled this morning"). One early service cancelled, everything else ran.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Yes - I live in North Yorkshire mate - a Tory strong hold for years - everyone hates them - from farmers to fishermen who have been immensely let down to people who live in market towns where they grew up and can't afford to live there. In Middlesbrough tonight ( was in the old North Riding ) a Mitsubishi owned chemicals plant has announced its closing down - egg producers are fucked because those who are free range and they can't do that now coz all their birds are indoors and they blame the lack of vets to check flocks and pig farmers have slaughtered thousands of pigs for the same reason - safe seats here are toxic for them now. The Redcar Tory gets pelters daily as does the former Chief Sec to the Treasury Simon Clarke. I don't think that they will be down to 6 MP's as was possible on the numbers but the degree of the overturn of the 80 seat majority of 2019 - now lower than that - to what they will end up with will be historic
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Well that assuring. Can’t wait until election night. Popcorn and enough whisky to get me through the night watching the bastards fall!
 
bluethrunthru said:
Yes - I live in North Yorkshire mate - a Tory strong hold for years - everyone hates them - from farmers to fishermen who have been immensely let down to people who live in market towns where they grew up and can't afford to live there. In Middlesbrough tonight ( was in the old North Riding ) a Mitsubishi owned chemicals plant has announced its closing down - egg producers are fucked because those who are free range and they can't do that now coz all their birds are indoors and they blame the lack of vets to check flocks and pig farmers have slaughtered thousands of pigs for the same reason - safe seats here are toxic for them now. The Redcar Tory gets pelters daily as does the former Chief Sec to the Treasury Simon Clarke. I don't think that they will be down to 6 MP's as was possible on the numbers but the degree of the overturn of the 80 seat majority of 2019 - now lower than that - to what they will end up with will be historic
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Also I was holidaying in North Yorkshire in Sunak’s constituency in the summer. It smelt of Toryism!
 
bluethrunthru said:
Tonight we are asking why are so many working aged middle aged people not working.

I'll tell you why Fiona from a personal point of view. I have worked hard for 40 + years - I have a house that I own outright because house prices were not a commodity to exploit for massive gain - I have 2 lucrative workplace pensions that provide me with a generous lump sum and a small but workable monthly income. I can get by and have no need nor interest to go back to work not least because I don't want to try and bale these fuckers out. I am a leftie who has benefitted from what were Conservative values longs since abandoned by the Conservatives and that were also supported by the left - workplace pensions and union representation are examples - the Tories have broken this country in 12 short years and why people like me should try and help fix their mess when they are hell bent on making it worse any way.
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Same for me. I'm not receiving the state pension yet, but I have enough set by to stick two fingers up to the cunts that want me to earn £1 while they pocket thousands.

Due consideration should be given to a number of points raised by audience members, such as those that can't work because their conditions which prevent them from doing so are not being treated by the NHS, and the cost of child care prevents many from working, as it's cheaper as a couple for one of them to stay at home, but the failure of their policies over the last 12 years by grinding everyone down uner the mantra of 'austerity' has run its course.

It was interesting when one of the panelists said public sector pay had fallen by 30% in real terms since 2010, because that's an absolute reflection of the decline in the rate of growth of the economy since the tories took over, and as for the bloke advocating growth as the only way forward for people to increase their standards of living, he was a prime mover for Brexit which has had a devastating effect on our economy, reducing investment that will have long term consquences for all of us.

We are being led by idiots.
 
Question 1 - How do we get more economically inactive people inti work? Well stop fucking public transport so they can get to out of the way workplaces suchj as many of the farms that can't get cheap labour. I know that's a generalisation, but not everybody has access to transport.
 
NPBlue said:
Same for me. I'm not receiving the state pension yet, but I have enough set by to stick two fingers up to the cunts that want me to earn £1 while they pocket thousands.

Due consideration should be given to a number of points raised by audience members, such as those that can't work because their conditions which prevent them from doing so are not being treated by the NHS, and the cost of child care prevents many from working, as it's cheaper as a couple for one of them to stay at home, but the failure of their policies over the last 12 years by grinding everyone down uner the mantra of 'austerity' has run its course.

It was interesting when one of the panelists said public sector pay had fallen by 30% in real terms since 2010, because that's an absolute reflection of the decline in the rate of growth of the economy since the tories took over, and as for the bloke advocating growth as the only way forward for people to increase their standards of living, he was a prime mover for Brexit which has had a devastating effect on our economy, reducing investment that will have long term consquences for all of us.

We are being led by idiots.
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Whilst agreeing with much of the above, I'm sorry but " Idiots " doesn't really explain the situation, as the Tories are just out and out liars and who refuse to accept the dreadful effect Brexit has had upon our country.

Ruled by the ERG these cunts are clinging on to the lies and propaganda which was the thrust of their leave campaign.

The cunts like Boris, JRM, Marc Francois , are the insidious centre of this terrible government and are ruining the lives of so many.

I suspect that many of them would be facing prison sentences for their un-descovered crimes if they weren't able to hide behind being members of Parliament.

These selfish and self-obsessed bastards are ruining the lives of so many for the sake of self preservation .
 
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A decade of austerity, a pandemic, an aging population, and a long underfunded NHS have resulted in many people becoming economically inactive. Getting such people (many of whom are older and who have underlying physical and mental health problems) back into work, most likely part time work, will only help the Government massage its figures. It will not in itself encourage economic growth.
 
Oh dear - Welsh Panel member saying they need a "fairer funding settlement" - you had it love but you voted to quit the EU and lost all their money.............. you can't vote away the cash then complain you are skint
 
Olivia Utley - member of the Parish of GB News - allowed to push the idea its not funding the NHS is broke and needs privatising line but is unchallenged meanwhile Tory MP David T C Davies says he doesn't have any truck with the Anglican Church because its "too left wing" ????
 
I don't see how anyone, apart from the fattening elite, could consider voting Tory after having experienced this seemingly never-ending shit show.
 
City Hobgoblin said:
I don't see how anyone, apart from the fattening elite, could consider voting Tory after having experienced this seemingly never-ending shit show.
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forriners boats unemployed flat watching screen TV's Remainers Lefty lawyers Corbyn Harry and Meghan I mean how many (fake) reasons do you need mate?
 
bluethrunthru said:
Olivia Utley - member of the Parish of GB News - allowed to push the idea its not funding the NHS is broke and needs privatising line but is unchallenged meanwhile Tory MP David T C Davies says he doesn't have any truck with the Anglican Church because its "too left wing" ????
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It does my head in these days regarding the NHS. The tories cut 23,000 hospital beds, 50,000 doctors and nurses, removed the bursary for trainee nurses, cut the funding for social care so it takes weeks for the fewer beds available to become free as councils don't have the resources to find places for those in their care, nearly 50% of spending on the NHS is now going to private companies where profit comes first rather than patient care, and not one of them tonight pointed out those truths.

The reality of our governments attitude to healthcare was laid bare by those two audience members who waited hours for ambulances to arrive, in one case for that poor 2 year old child, and no one in the audience or on the panel knew or explained why it was happening.

The current Chancellor of the Exchequer, Jeremy Hunt, with his reforms of the NHS, is directly responsible for the chaos the NHS now finds itself in, and it pisses me off no end that right wing media shits like Olivia Utley defend the idea of privatisation by not mentioning the diabolical decisions this government has made over the last 12 years that have reduced a once functioning NHS into the state it is in today.

It wasn't too long ago you could phone up your surgery in the morning and see your doctor in the afternoon. I'm 65 years old and that was the case for most of my life. It is now an aim of this government, an achievement if you will, that you should be able to see your doctor within two weeks of phoning your surgery.

I don't know how long it will take for this country to wake up and recognise the damage this government has caused during its tenure, but my fear is the damage that has been wreaked in so many areas, not just to the NHS, is too deep rooted to be easily repaired.
 
I had the misfortune to watch part of QT yesterday.
The first topic was about a long serving aged woman in the royal household being accused of the racial bullying of a much younger woman of colour.
Not going into detail, but surely there are more important issues to cover?
This section of the programme was over long (should the question even have been raised?) and seemed just to be a distraction from other more important things currently ongoing in the U.K.
 
NPBlue said:
It does my head in these days regarding the NHS. The tories cut 23,000 hospital beds, 50,000 doctors and nurses, removed the bursary for trainee nurses, cut the funding for social care so it takes weeks for the fewer beds available to become free as councils don't have the resources to find places for those in their care, nearly 50% of spending on the NHS is now going to private companies where profit comes first rather than patient care, and not one of them tonight pointed out those truths.

The reality of our governments attitude to healthcare was laid bare by those two audience members who waited hours for ambulances to arrive, in one case for that poor 2 year old child, and no one in the audience or on the panel knew or explained why it was happening.

The current Chancellor of the Exchequer, Jeremy Hunt, with his reforms of the NHS, is directly responsible for the chaos the NHS now finds itself in, and it pisses me off no end that right wing media shits like Olivia Utley defend the idea of privatisation by not mentioning the diabolical decisions this government has made over the last 12 years that have reduced a once functioning NHS into the state it is in today.

It wasn't too long ago you could phone up your surgery in the morning and see your doctor in the afternoon. I'm 65 years old and that was the case for most of my life. It is now an aim of this government, an achievement if you will, that you should be able to see your doctor within two weeks of phoning your surgery.

I don't know how long it will take for this country to wake up and recognise the damage this government has caused during its tenure, but my fear is the damage that has been wreaked in so many areas, not just to the NHS, is too deep rooted to be easily repaired.
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The damage to the NHS is deliberate sabotage/vandalism imho in order to then present privatisation as the solution.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
The damage to the NHS is deliberate sabotage/vandalism imho in order to then present privatisation as the solution.
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The punter/end user hasn't got a say in it either, it's inevitable and it will happen. Politicians colluding with big business to make money.
 
NPBlue said:
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It wasn't too long ago you could phone up your surgery in the morning and see your doctor in the afternoon. I'm 65 years old and that was the case for most of my life. It is now an aim of this government, an achievement if you will, that you should be able to see your doctor within two weeks of phoning your surgery.

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Hey, I remember you rolled up and just waited in a big waiting room to see the doctor... Or call him to visit you if you might be infectious. I can still remember Dr Mitchell (just him in the practice in Withington) coming into the bedroom saying "Good morning, good morning, good morning"...
 
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