VAR thread 2022/23

[BlueHammer85]

That's what happens when a system is corrupted, no-one believes anything of it.

that's because some just enjoy being permanently outraged, get rid of VAR and you'll still be calling refs, linos, FA, officials all corrupt - so it makes no difference anyway

 

[its grim up north]

Yes you seem to have taken the post (which shows how perspective changes one’s view of it) far too seriously.

Here’s another (note it’s not from last nights game)

Thats 100% correct. But re last nights decision, where did the camera placed directly over the ball come from?

 

[halfcenturyup]

But not like the hoof from a rag defender at West Ham that curved out of play then back in for the raggies to score.

It's the PL. They didn't have the technology there to make an accurate assessment.

I guess.

 

[halfcenturyup]

that's because some just enjoy being permanently outraged, get rid of VAR and you'll still be calling refs, linos, FA, officials all corrupt - so it makes no difference anyway

I don't think I have ever said everyone is corrupt. I said the system is corrupted. @SebastianBlue can mansplain it to you. I think I am pretty fair to officials and the governing bodies :)

I hate that I now have to support VAR over this incident, but VAR should be congratulated when it gets something right, and this SAOT, ball and player sensor thing is a big improvement if we really want accuracy to 1mm. But we can't complain then when the technology to 1mm is more accurate than the naked eye.

 

[Gazza]

that's because some just enjoy being permanently outraged, get rid of VAR and you'll still be calling refs, linos, FA, officials all corrupt - so it makes no difference anyway

At least it would be instant corruption.

 

[SWP's back]

I suppose that this will eventually occur... not sure why it isn't currently in use... goal line technology applied to (at least) the endlines if not the sidelines as well.

Really should. Remember the Arsenal semi final. Still fucked off by that.

 

[andyhinch]

The ball has sensors in it and they’ve got computer cameras all over the pitch. Their software will know it’s either in play or not so it’s either the right decision or wrong but if trust the software over a human eye any day of the week on stuff like this. It’s exactly like the Stones clearance on the line against Liverpool.

It’s not a hill I’m going to die on, I simply don’t know how good the technology they have in place for this situation is, if it was between the posts I wouldn’t even question it, it’s not something I’ve looked into, I’m more than happy with the outcome though.

 

[Lavinda Past]

Thats 100% correct. But re last nights decision, where did the camera placed directly over the ball come from?

A Chinese satellite?

 

[Dirty Harry]

A Japanese satellite?

I think you meant this ;-)

 

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

Yeah and?





This game has explained to me that many people don’t understand spherical geometry.

nor parallax error

 

[Kippaxpete]

I don't think I have ever said everyone is corrupt. I said the system is corrupted. @SebastianBlue can mansplain it to you. I think I am pretty fair to officials and the governing bodies :)

I hate that I now have to support VAR over this incident, but VAR should be congratulated when it gets something right, and this SAOT, ball and player sensor thing is a big improvement if we really want accuracy to 1mm. But we can't complain then when the technology to 1mm is more accurate than the naked eye.

'@SebastianBlue can mansplain it to you.'
Phew! I thought I'd accidentally find my way on to the Guardian's comments page by mistake.
; )

 

[stonerblue]

If they called it out it would be ‘corruption’ .. they called it in and that also means ‘corruption’

Odd that as we were told var would remove any possible chance of corruption.

 

[SebastianBlue]

that's because some just enjoy being permanently outraged, get rid of VAR and you'll still be calling refs, linos, FA, officials all corrupt - so it makes no difference anyway

Or some of us have seen firsthand how the world actually works and aren’t so naive as to believe football is the only enterprise left in the world not touched by corruption.

/mansplaining

 

[Kippax77]

Really should. Remember the Arsenal semi final. Still fucked off by that.

Yes the lineman thinking he was Hawkeye

 

[AlfGreyruinedmyday]

Is that subbuteo? Nothing like what actually happened, the white line is too thin to start with.

If more than half the ball is over the line it should be declared as out.

Glad my kids have finished with youth football. I can see chaos on the touchlines as a result of the many "interpretations" resulting from this. It was bad enough already. Now every dodgy "parental" linesman will be using whatever latitude they can get away with. Best not visit A&E at the weekend.

 

[Stephen230]

Odd that as we were told var would remove any possible chance of corruption.

Who told us that? Be an odd thing for anybody in any sort of position of authority to claim, as it would be a virtual admission that corruption was in place previously.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Odd that as we were told var would remove any possible chance of corruption.

Some will always cry corruption no matter what

 

[BlueHammer85]

Or some of us have seen firsthand how the world actually works and aren’t so naive as to believe football is the only enterprise left in the world not touched by corruption.

/mansplaining

yes and at some levels it probably exists

but every subjective tight VAR decision doesn't need to be met with 'it's pure corruption!' every time

 

[halfcenturyup]

Great except it wasn't used.
Posters keep quoting about the technology within the ball despite FIFA saying that the technology could not indicate whether the ball was in or out.

Not trying to drag this out, but can you tell me where I can find what FIFA has said about the incident, and what "technology" they were talking about? Just want to make sure I wasn't talking complete bs earlier :)

 

[Claytop]

I understand the geometry of it and how it can be seen to be out etc but how many throws in are given just from looking at it without the birds eye view over it.