VAR thread 2022/23

[KS55]

Improvements to VAR.
1. Allow the conversation between VAR and the on field ref to be relayed to the crowd and broadcasters.
2. Change the offside rule to feet only. The presence of VAR has removed the instances of giving the attacker the advantage in marginal cases. All that stuff of drawing lines from a shoulder to the ground takes time and is stupid. How much advantage does an attacker get if his feet are onside but his shoulder isn’t ?
3. Adopt a protocol in which the meaning of clear and obvious is acted upon.
4. Put FA in charge of VAR in all its aspects from appointment onwards. Currently, the PL refs are marking their own homework. A PL ref can be present to advise on the law but not take part in the decision, similar to mags clerk. Would remove accusations of bias.
5.Make VAR screen compulsory at all prem grounds.
6. Transfer PIGMOL to FA, not a PL subsidiary.

 

[halfcenturyup]

They will win when they are fair and consistent.

I won’t be holding my breath.

... and transparent. They could be tossing a coin for all we know now.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Just have decent officials.

Whilst i'll agree they are bad and have been since i've ever started watching

does there come a point where we say it's just to difficult for refs ? the speed of the game, the diving, the cheating, the crowd pressure, all decisions to be made in a split second

It really is a tough job without tech help.

 

[kippaxwarrior]

What happened to them releasing the audio after the decision was made so we could listen to how they came to the decision.

Or have I imagined that?

 

[remember arthur mann]

... and transparent. They could be tossing a coin for all we know now.

Yep, some tosser dithering trying to substantiate their huge wage plus extras they get payed...

 

[Dirty Harry]

I hate VAR and its impact on the game. Those joyless fuckers who are more interested in the purity of the outcome rather than the emotion of the game, have won. Fkrs, each and everyone...

Funny really, I was all for VAR, I guess I still am, but more in a form KS55 has put forward or very similar at least, but one thing I realised not so long ago, is that I couldn’t actually remember the last time I genuinely celebrated a goal fully with all the emotion and adrenaline involved after it had been scored.
Never imagined, as my thoughts have always been that getting the decision correct (haha) is/was the most important thing, and I could live with any inevitable ‘delay’, would have such an impact, but it has, you’re very right, it has sucked a hell of a lot of the enjoyment out of the game

 

[Hart of the Matter]

I felt more cheated before VAR watching players get awarded with penalty’s by going down in the box with ZERO contact (Salah on a weekly basis) and blatant offside goals being given, not by a toenail , by up to a foot offside … the decisions pre VAR was farcical and in a way I’d like us to scrap VAR so prem fans can be reminded how bad decision making by the officials without tech help actually is

Either way it’s a mess

You are prime joyless. It's a game FFS not a court case...

 

[Paladin]

I used to be a referee and have run many lines in my time. It was relatively easy to judge offside when all you had to look for was whether the attacker was fractionally ahead of the second last defender. I think it would be very difficult for assistant referees to judge based on feet positioning. Feet will mainly be on or just above the floor. There could be many more feet obscuring a clear view of a particular player's feet, with bodies leaning forwards, backwards, sideways etc.

Using feet as the point of measurement will be harder for on field officials, but much simpler for VARs.

 

[BlueHammer85]

You are prime joyless. It's a game FFS not a court case...

ha, I've always stated i'd be more than happy to scrap VAR if we can just accept poor decisions and just enjoy it.

if only that was the case.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I used to be a referee and have run many lines in my time. It was relatively easy to judge offside when all you had to look for was whether the attacker was fractionally ahead of the second last defender. I think it would be very difficult for assistant referees to judge based on feet positioning. Feet will mainly be on or just above the floor. There could be many more feet obscuring a clear view of a particular player's feet, with bodies leaning forwards, backwards, sideways etc.

Using feet as the point of measurement will be harder for on field officials, but much simpler for VARs.

Maybe this self automation will make it easier still. Probably not given how it’s used!