Discontent that will end the Tory Govt is coming

halfmist said:
Principles don’t pay bills.
I am also not in favour of private schools but anything that eases the burden on the State system whether it be health or education, we cannot afford to just dismiss on ideological grounds.
As regards tax breaks it isn't one.
Labour are talking about introducing a tax charge in terms of VAT and not removing a break that already exists.
Also, don’t forget the private school parents still have to contribute to the state system even though they are not using it.
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And the private school teachers have all been trained by public funds.
 
halfmist said:
Other than your first sentence, I think we can safely say the politics sub forum is not a fair refection of Society, its hard to argue against your other points.
We are in the shit for a multitude of reasons and yes, the book stops with the current ruling Party because they are the only ones who can do anything about it..
I just havn't seen enough concrete proposals from the Opposition that they have workable solutions to turn things around.
Obviously time will tell and I will be happy to be proved wrong if there are substantial changes for the better.
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You forgot to mention the vaccine rollout.
 
RabidCity said:
I'm commenting on your post not the big picture. Don't let that deflection get in the way of your unsubstantiated rant though.
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You are talking shite, picking NI as if it tells the whole story. And pray tell what effect do you think employers NI has on employee wages ?

The bottom line is that the majority of the tax bill in this country is borne by people who work, wealthy corporations and individuals pay very little.
 
halfmist said:
Where did I say we live in a meritocracy, I didn't.
Its an unfair world, we can either moan about it knowing deep down we cannot change it or play to the unfair rules.
The majority of Labour politicians who are likely to form any future Government are not there on individual merit they have followed the same path as Tory politicians.
That is the real world.
I would like to think I am intelligent enough to form my own opinions on how the system works and my gut feeling that all politicians who carry any clout all piss in the same pot.
I have yet to be proved wrong.
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Thanks for confirming yourself to be exactly what I thought you were. You don’t even understand your own posts let alone what is going on in the world.
 
dave_blue12 said:
Thanks for confirming yourself to be exactly what I thought you were. You don’t even understand your own posts let alone what is going on in the world.
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Another one who clearly struggles with debating skills, the only thing your post misses is a bit of cursing.
The thread is not about me or you, so whatever you think of me on an ill informed personal level is completely irrelevant to the thread
 
They are losing the back up that they thought they could rely upon - if they cannot rely upon those that they forbade the opportunity to strike whilst at the same time starving them of cash equipment and personnel they are lost

www.express.co.uk

Jacob Rees-Mogg tells military to 'do as your told' over strikes

The former Business Secretary hit out at the military after the head of the Armed Forces complained about covering for strikes.
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www.lbc.co.uk

Strikes could mean police are too busy filling in for the NHS to tackle burglaries and stabbings, Met chief warns

Police may be spending too much time dealing with people's mental health crises amid the NHS strikes to tackle crimes like burglaries and stabbings, the head of the Metropolitan Police has warned.
www.lbc.co.uk www.lbc.co.uk
 
It's quite telling that in my local by-election, in a Labour stronghold, 16% of voters still braved the cold weather to go and vote for the Tories!! I genuinely can't get my head around it. They are thickos akin to a Turkey voting for Christmas!
 
Manchester33 said:
It's quite telling that in my local by-election, in a Labour stronghold, 16% of voters still braved the cold weather to go and vote for the Tories!! I genuinely can't get my head around it. They are thickos akin to a Turkey voting for Christmas!
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So everyone who sees the world different to you are thickos.?
Don’t you think that’s a little bit arrogant.?
 
halfmist said:
So everyone who sees the world different to you are thickos.?
Don’t you think that’s a little bit arrogant.?
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If they can’t see what the Tories are doing to the rest of the country, regardless of how they’re impacted, the thicko’s is the best they can worry about being called!! I’ve a few other words I’d use personally.
 
It is not 'lefty" to ask for honesty, integrity and fairness. It is not radical to ask for a government to be held to account for the promises that they made that were not delivered. The idea that the market will dictate what someone earns pre-supposes that people shift, when many do not, for a variety of external factors. We can have greater fairness, and the public sector can be the driver of that. Hopefully, we are nearing the end of a terrible period in British history, where division and dishonesty have ruled, with an impact that will be felt for generations.
 
dave_blue12 said:
But you’re not.
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I do wonder how some on here manage face to face discussions with someone who, let’s say has a different opinion to them
If they find themselves backed in to a corner or struggle to answer a question is the solution to unleash a tirade of abuse or just blurt out your a thicko.
Me thinks it’s probably reserved for the keyboard.
 
halfmist said:
I do wonder how some on here manage face to face discussions with someone who, let’s say has a different opinion to them
If they find themselves backed in to a corner or struggle to answer a question is the solution to unleash a tirade of abuse or just blurt out your a thicko.
Me thinks it’s probably reserved for the keyboard.
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But you have also talked about lefties and rent a mob in your last couple of posts. I hear you, and discussion is key, but people are angry and frustrated.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
The rules around residency (90 days in any 180) only apply to Schengen Zone, so if you wanted you could purchase a property and apply to retire in places not in the Schengen Zone yet such as Croatia / Montenegro etc. Problem is that property prices are soaring because of this rule .
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From 01/01/2023 Croatia is a Schengen zone country.
 
Manchester33 said:
Anyone who would vote for the Tories right now is a thicko, yes.
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Thing is, they're not even that thick, at least some of them aren't. They're just so blinded with hatred for the Labour party and Corbynista politics (some still conflate the man with the party; as if socialism would ever take off in a global, western economy) that they can't summon the integrity to vote for change. They're obdurate to the point of self-destruction. It's as if the country hasn't been ravaged and picked to it's bare carcass in the last decade.

The Tory party have large portions of the electorate eating out of their hands for two reasons.

1.) We are a country of xenophobes and closeted racists. Truth hurts. The vast majority aren't, I will qualify. But there's a definite undercurrent; and the ultra-nationalist drum that the Tories have been banging ever since the Brexit referendum played on these sentiments. The Tories were the biggest advocates for divorcing from the EU, and the nationalist lemmings in this country lapped it up. All of a sudden, Johnson and his vanguard of Cronyism were the countries saviours. Even in staunch red seats, the tide turned because too many believe immigration to be the great scourge of this nation, and now the Tories were promising to restrict Jozef from Poland coming here to work every hour that God sends, picking fruit or delivering takeaways to the greedy cunts who sit on their arse and bemoan their belonging in this country in the first place.

2.) Division has never been starker. We live in the information age. The digital age. The phenomena of gratuitous information and minute-by-minute news has exploded exponentially since the Tories came to power. This digital age has led to firmly entrenched ideals and values. Once you've nailed your colours to the mast, that's you. The wriggle room for open-mindedness is zero. The Tories have large swathes of the electorate doing their job for them online. The ministers take their gross mistruths, dress it up in florid Oxbridge rhetoric, dump it into the digital space, and the lemmings disseminate the narrative until it's accepted as truth.

It's a sorry fucking state of affairs, really.
 
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