Clarkson. Finished?

Aphex said:
Last post on the matter. I'd possibly have been with you 100 percent a few years ago, but the hate spouted by say, the democrats to the right is applauded and the same going the other way is called out. If this article was about someone on the Right, what would you do?
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I would. I'm getting sick of the hate from both sides.

Polite and funny tropes from the left about the crassness of the right is just as inflammatory imo.

I really like LBCs James obrien for example, he says exactly what I support, but his methods, the way he steers the conversation so that he wins the argument isn't constructive, it's just winning the argument.

I see the same on both sides and I'm pretty much fed up with it.
Right I'm off to the politics threads to cause some trouble.
 
Aphex said:
Last post on the matter. I'd possibly have been with you 100 percent a few years ago, but the hate spouted by say, the democrats to the right is applauded and the same going the other way is called out. If this article was about someone on the Right, what would you do?
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Fuck all is the answer.

The politics forum is all the evidence needed to prove that point.
 
Blue and true said:
If a thread existed, whereby someone on the right had been abused in the same way Meghan Markle was, and continues to be abused, then yes, of course I would call the perpetrator out. And I'm willing to bet many on here would do the same. This shouldn't be about left wing or right wing though, especially when you can consider the woman in question has no strong political affiliations anyway. I disagree with certain people on this forum on manifold topics, as I'm sure you do, but I would never stoop to saying I hate them on a cellular level.

Like you say, enough has been said on the subject now so I'm going to leave it there. Have a good Christmas.
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It's all about human decency. It's more than politics.
I have been ambivalent towards H&M but now I really feel sorry for her. I wouldn't want to read that about my wife or daughter.
It was horrible to read an intelligent and mature man could harbour such hate for not much of a reason.
 
RadcliffeRick said:
Yes, please do so she can sell some more episodes of the dirge they call entertainment.
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She has every right to call out the media , imagine the women in your life getting hate, racist and sexist abuse by middle aged white men mostly , it is not right , people have been prosecuted for death threats against her , fuelled by the media , it has to fucking stop
 
kaz7 said:
She has every right to call out the media , imagine the women in your life getting hate, racist and sexist abuse by middle aged white men mostly , it is not right , people have been prosecuted for death threats against her , fuelled by the media , it has to fucking stop
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But great for the profile and for selling more air time. Anyway, it's Christmas, no time for these irrelevants
 
Blue and true said:
My cyber bullying analogy was referencing your point about being able to say "what you want". By that logic, a man can go online and say what he wants about a woman because he hates them. Without any foundation or excusable reason, he just hates them so it's fair game. Free speech shouldn't, and thankfully doesn't work like that. It's not a soapbox that gives the speaker boundless scope to say what they want; that's how prejucides and discrimination foster. There are caveats and boundaries. Clarkson's article overstepped, hugely, those boundaries.

The hate directed towards Meghan Markle is is inexcusable and agendised. That it's driven by middle-aged men makes it even more shameful, in my opinion.
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whats all this fucking middle aged men shit, do all middle aged men behave that way, nobody is allowed to get slagged off except middle aged men , you know the ones that all get called gammon,or whatever fucking joint of meat seems the most trendy .

so fuck your rousing speach about free speech , you barmy fucker.

oh and merry christmas :)
 
mexico1970 said:
I never mentioned that, you stated that they are just people, they are not they are ridiculously rich people. Either way they will find a way to make money out of it in good time.
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Nonsense , she was pushed to the brink of suicide and yet the abuse from the uk media keeps coming , what is their aim , to finish her off ?
 
kaz7 said:
Nonsense , she was pushed to the brink of suicide
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Her truth again yes?

Kudos to them both. Pair of “b” listers who have seen that victimhood, being offended and a great PR team can give them the fame and fortune that being a shit actress and a part time Royal never could.

Those that buy into it, great, knock yourselves out and for those of us that don’t, well, much the same really.
 
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blueinsa said:
Her truth again yes?

Kudos to them both. Pair of “b” listers who have seen that victimhood, being offended and a great PR team can give them the fame and fortune that being a shit actress and a part time Royal never could.

Those that buy into it, great, knock yourselves out and for those of us that don’t, we’ll, much the same really.
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You still commenting on a subject you have no interest in ?

You join in with the social media bully boys every time you talk about them

If you are suggesting that she was lying about being suicidal then shame on you

Harry was born a royal and did ten years in the army , you can beat that though right ?
 
kaz7 said:
Nonsense , she was pushed to the brink of suicide
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Made a good sound bite for Oprah and her Netflix advert. If they both wanted to withdraw they could do easily, but instead look for easy money the way that 'influencers' do. She has one story, he has two whining about Mummy still and latching onto the latest woke trend. He hasn't suffered a day in his life and uses disabled service men to give himself a bit of meaning.

Be moaning next how family hates us and we didn't get invited (sorry turned down invitation) to the Coronation of his (alleged)Dad

But Clarkson should be finished because while I don't particularly like/see any value in them, his comments were way over the top of being reasonable and that sort of threat/bullying isn't acceptable
 
kaz7 said:
You still commenting on a subject you have no interest in ?
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I am.

Last time I looked it was allowed.

Imagine a forum where no one was allowed to reply or comment unless in total agreement?
 
gouldybob said:
Made a good sound bite for Oprah and her Netflix advert. If they both wanted to withdraw they could do easily, but instead look for easy money the way that 'influencers' do. She has one story, he has two whining about Mummy still and latching onto the latest woke trend. He hasn't suffered a day in his life and uses disabled service men to give himself a bit of meaning.

Be moaning next how family hates us and we didn't get invited (sorry turned down invitation) to the Coronation of his (alleged)Dad

But Clarkson should be finished because while I don't particularly like/see any value in them, his comments were way over the top of being reasonable and that sort of threat/bullying isn't acceptable
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He was in afhgan for ten years , he has lost mates and family more than most

In the interview in south africa you could see in her eyes how she was feeling , i have been there so i can see it in her , to say it is just a sound bite is disgusting

Have you been made to walk behind your mums coffin in full view of the world ? Not suffered lol
 
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