47 | Phil Foden - 2022/23

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Lavinda Past said:
This 100%

It's an appalling waste of talent when you think about it. Whatever happened to teams playing to their strengths?
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2017 Man City 5 - Monaco 3 / Monaco 3 - Man City 1
2018 Liverpool 3 - Man City 0 / Man City 1 - Liverpool 2
2019 Tottenham 1 - Man City 0 / Man City 4 - Tottenham 3

Pep got weary of giving up too many goals while playing to our strength so he wants more "control" of the ball as the other team can't score against us if they don't have the ball.

And 16 goals given up in 16 games is driving Pep bald!
 
Blue_Lightsaber said:
2017 Man City 5 - Monaco 3 / Monaco 3 - Man City 1
2018 Liverpool 3 - Man City 0 / Man City 1 - Liverpool 2
2019 Tottenham 1 - Man City 0 / Man City 4 - Tottenham 3

Pep got weary of giving up too many goals while playing to our strength so he wants more "control" of the ball as the other team can't score against us if they don't have the ball.

And 16 goals given up in 16 games is driving Pep bald!
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When we played Monaco we were nowhere ready. 2 of the most entertaining City games i’ve seen but that was the start of the brilliant football Pep got us playing ( we were nowhere near in the league that season). The other 2 Pep dicked about with the team and style in both away games. At home to a great Liverpool team we were superb but had a mountain to climb and as usual against then we didn’t get fair decisions. That Tottenham home game again we had to chase it because of the bad decisions he made in the away game. We were absolutely superb but you can’t legislate for 2 absolute howlers from your centre half however you set up.

It’s worrying if he’s based this new style on that and the Madrid home game where again missed chances and no proper fullback cost us. Look at all the other times he’s changed. our style at Anfield and in Europe (average Lyon side) and in the final against Chelsea where it’s not worked anyway.
 
Blue_Lightsaber said:
2017 Man City 5 - Monaco 3 / Monaco 3 - Man City 1
2018 Liverpool 3 - Man City 0 / Man City 1 - Liverpool 2
2019 Tottenham 1 - Man City 0 / Man City 4 - Tottenham 3

Pep got weary of giving up too many goals while playing to our strength so he wants more "control" of the ball as the other team can't score against us if they don't have the ball.

And 16 goals given up in 16 games is driving Pep bald!
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We’d have qualified from all of those CL games had the refs done their jobs properly.
 
He is a tremendous talent but, at the highest levels of the world game, absolutely nobody should be guaranteed their place, and certainly not a young player.
 
FantasyIreland said:
True,but i think he deserves better than being shoehorned.Much like Bernardo.
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Very true but he needs to step up and start dictating games like Kdb. Both players have suffered because we have a world class player in their coveted position.

Foden or Grealish or Bernardo all need raise their consistency, if Kev is off we look shit. None of them deserve to take his position.

Step up or stop moaning.
 
wolviedinho said:
Very true but he needs to step up and start dictating games like Kdb. Both players have suffered because we have a world class player in their coveted position.

Foden or Grealish or Bernardo all need raise their consistency, if Kev is off we look shit. None of them deserve to take his position.

Step up or stop moaning.
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I agree to an extent but with Bernado and Gundo together we’ve done very well without Kev. He’s always been inconsistent in games because he takes so many risks. Obviously his numbers in terms of assists are always excellent because of his quality. The way we’re set up currently though if he is off it the whole team performance is.
 
Craig said:
I agree to an extent but with Bernado and Gundo together we’ve done very well without Kev. He’s always been inconsistent in games because he takes so many risks. Obviously his numbers in terms of assists are always excellent because of his quality. The way we’re set up currently though if he is off it the whole team performance is.
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I agree. Kev is not untouchable. The team as a whole seems at times more balanced with Bernardo and Gundo centrally. Especially now with the big fella up front. It’s a big call for Pep and one he is not currently going to make unless kev gets an injury.

Kdb is a high risk player and at times we can’t carry him due to others not performing. Catch 22 situation. Imo we have 5/6 players not performing so why should Kev be dropped?

Bottom line for me is that those who want to play for city and are currently in the right mind space should start. It will be uncomfortable viewing at times as they may not be as good as the player not playing.
 
Craig said:
I agree to an extent but with Bernado and Gundo together we’ve done very well without Kev. He’s always been inconsistent in games because he takes so many risks. Obviously his numbers in terms of assists are always excellent because of his quality. The way we’re set up currently though if he is off it the whole team performance is.
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Spot on,this narrative that we struggle without Kev is a nonsense....more so since he stopped bossing the midfield and giving the ball away much more.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
He has done an excellent job for us on the left wing. Just not recently.
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It seems that Pep has decided that he wants Phil and Jack to keep the ball more and not to take any risks that, Phil in particularly , does normally, let's hope Pep takes the handbrake off in the not so distant future as we have stopped scoring and blowing teams away like we used to. He probably will, he has done in the past.
 
Lovely finish for his goal, did well to win the penalty, and was involved in a good pressing performance.

Didn't see enough of the ball, though, or dictate play in the way we need our midfielders to.

Midfield may be his preferred position but it's a long time since he played there and he has work to do if he wants to stake his claim on playing there more often.
 
Centrally is definitely where you'll see Phil's best qualities but whether the team would function as well with him there I'm not sure. I can kind of see why Pep has him predominantly on the wing because the game tends to pass him by on the few occasions I've seen him play in midfield. Having said that, he still has time to learn and is only going to get better at the position if he's given more opportunities to play there.

Unfortunately for him we currently have three of the best midfielders in world football but maybe next season if Bernardo and possibly Gundogan aren't here then Foden will get more of a chance there.
 
As previous comments say he took his goal well but also looked slightly lost in there at times. Didn't offer enough to receive the ball which is surprising as he is normally always calling for it, work to do but still confident that's where he will play his best football.

Love the guy to bits in any event!
 
David El Mago Silva said:
Centrally is definitely where you'll see Phil's best qualities but whether the team would function as well with him there I'm not sure. I can kind of see why Pep has him predominantly on the wing because the game tends to pass him by on the few occasions I've seen him play in midfield. Having said that, he still has time to learn and is only going to get better at the position if he's given more opportunities to play there.
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True but I think that a midfielder is more difficult to break into a system. You have to build the chemistry and let the teammates get used to your habits. I would love to see Jack and Phil to have more trials in the midfield.

Foden is more a second striker than a midfielder to me in this match. Perhaps it is because Chelsea cannot apply any real pressure on us. It is a similar role KDB played and I think Foden is better as a second striker because he entered the box more and caused chaos inside.
 
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Thought he played well, you cannot expect him to be kdb the first chance he gets to play centrally.

his current best position is on the wing but his future is central, it just won't be a weekly thing until kdb is done here but happy to see Pep give him a game in there in his absence, no reason why he cannot start playing in there more often when kdb isn't on the pitch, we need the extra option in there and the more he gets to play it the better he will be.

Has to play against united, he tore them apart last time and we know it means as much to him as it does us.
 
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