It's Quiet 17 - Glory Thread

Manc123 said:
I've seen a lot of comments on here about signings and certain players not being good enough ect. I think sometimes we've got to remember you just can't always just buy anyone we know the club do extensive work into personalities and such.

Also some need to remember there is squad rules like home grown quotas ect
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True - but after failing on Cucurella, was there really no one out there?

I don't see Pep going after a pacey winger, unless he has a big change of tactic though.
 
Ajm1985 said:
True - but after failing on Cucurella, was there really no one out there?

I don't see Pep going after a pacey winger, unless he has a big change of tactic though.
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Cucurella isn't pulling up trees is he. I actually don't think there is many left backs out there. I think the issue of gomez only heightened more because of cancelos form.

I think my issue is people mention left backs and it's like truly expensive ones or maybe someone the club having conducted their research didn't actually want in their dressing room.

I do think they will get one this summer along with a midfielder.

I get the pacy winger but that's not really a glaring issue for me because most games we face 10men blocks most games. But we could do with an alternative.

I think the full back areas are the main issues with the inverted wingers needing the overlap.


I think the issue I have with some comments regarding the squad building especially on twitter is every player has to be some fancy 100m player who may not even work. It's like oh get leao or Theo Hernandez ect not taking into consideration financials and such especially with the new rules being implemented.
 
Manc123 said:
Cucurella isn't pulling up trees is he. I actually don't think there is many left backs out there. I think the issue of gomez only heightened more because of cancelos form.

I think my issue is people mention left backs and it's like truly expensive ones or maybe someone the club having conducted their research didn't actually want in their dressing room.

I do think they will get one this summer along with a midfielder.

I get the pacy winger but that's not really a glaring issue for me because most games we face 10men blocks most games. But we could do with an alternative.

I think the full back areas are the main issues with the inverted wingers needing the overlap.


I think the issue I have with some comments regarding the squad building especially on twitter is every player has to be some fancy 100m player who may not even work. It's like oh get leao or Theo Hernandez ect not taking into consideration financials and such especially with the new rules being implemented.
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City did their research, wanted the player and had a valuation. Him being poor at Chelsea doesn't mean he would have been the same at City - however, he was massively overpriced.

Cucurella had a good season and is talented but not the finished article - and there must be similar players who are affordable. If there aren't, then the only alternatives are the top class players with obscene fees who aren't likely to leave - Hernandez etc.

My belief is that there must be alternatives, that are cheaper and can be improved by Pep. Despite his form, I don't think Cancelo will be abandoned as Pep has tried to shoe horn him in everywhere.

With regards to pace, it's not necessarily about running in open space, it's having acceleration to run behind a block or beat a man. None of our wide players have that, which makes it easier to defend against - not saying it's easy, just easier and if we are struggling to beat a 10 man block, variety helps. Again, I agree that this doesn't have to be a superstar - I'd be happy if they looked at this profile in the EDS - it's just an aspect we are lacking.
 
Ajm1985 said:
City did their research, wanted the player and had a valuation. Him being poor at Chelsea doesn't mean he would have been the same at City - however, he was massively overpriced.

Cucurella had a good season and is talented but not the finished article - and there must be similar players who are affordable. If there aren't, then the only alternatives are the top class players with obscene fees who aren't likely to leave - Hernandez etc.

My belief is that there must be alternatives, that are cheaper and can be improved by Pep. Despite his form, I don't think Cancelo will be abandoned as Pep has tried to shoe horn him in everywhere.

With regards to pace, it's not necessarily about running in open space, it's having acceleration to run behind a block or beat a man. None of our wide players have that, which makes it easier to defend against - not saying it's easy, just easier and if we are struggling to beat a 10 man block, variety helps. Again, I agree that this doesn't have to be a superstar - I'd be happy if they looked at this profile in the EDS - it's just an aspect we are lacking.
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no i agree with you on the pace being an alternative i just dont see it as a glaring issue if you get what i mean. id like one but its not at the top of my priority list. I feel like the cucurella thing maybe he would have been good for us but its all ifs and maybes deffo not worth the price they wanted. I just feel like the club probably have certain targets for lb and are a bit more wary i do think they will buy one however i also think the market for quality left backs isnt there neither recently. I do think we will get one. I also dont have an issue with cancelo i just think his forms of like i think gundos and fodens is off too the difference being we have other options in midfield.
 
DMA's said:
City’s recruitment has been so lazy in recent times imo.

Spent a whole summer chasing Kane and leaving the squad without a true no.9

Grealish for 100 mil. Shudder every time I think of this one. I was banging the drum when we where linked he is a poor mahrez without the end product. Honestly there is miles better players than grealish around europe like the bloke who is going to arsenal for instance.

Phillips for 40 mil? Again surely there is better around Europe for half the price. This isn’t hindsight either again I voiced concerns re Phillips ability and injury record.

Ake isn’t as good as the other cbs imo. 40 mil for a back up is madness.

gomez. Wow the very definition of a panic buy

chasing cucurella trying bully Brighton only to miss out and again have no decent back up option, just shocking neglect to the lb position over the last few years. Made worse by selling zinchenko.

Alvarez and akanji are really good signings tbf and obviously haaland is a good buy.

It’s like our recruitment team only watch match of the day! Honestly your telling me there isn’t viable options to grealish, Phillips, cucurella anywhere around Europe for a fraction of the price?

Now we are seemingly gonna blow most our budget on a very over hyped player in Bellingham?

We have become very complacent imo
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Stones and Dias when playing their A game are our best cb's. Stones has been our best cb this season, closely followed by Ake. Ake may have been bought as a back up, but on current form deserves to be playing in the starting 11 imo.
 
Manc123 said:
I've seen a lot of comments on here about signings and certain players not being good enough ect. I think sometimes we've got to remember you just can't always just buy anyone we know the club do extensive work into personalities and such.

Also some need to remember there is squad rules like home grown quotas ect
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The moment we drop a point, we have many posters condemning several players.
 
Keeper! said:
The 5 are never available, at the very least one is injured.

Dias before injury was not in a good place, same with Laporte, Ake for me is hugely limited despite been one of our stand outs this season, which for me says everything about how are standards have dropped.
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So you miss Eric Garcia and Otamendi?
 
Blue_Lightsaber said:
Cancelo's form has fallen off a cliff and he was found out 3 times defensively by Chelsea in 30 mins. Laporte saved him.

I don't think we can carry an out of form Cancelo along with an out of form KDB.

Recently Pep is trusting Ake there.. so might not be surprising if City do make a move for an actual left back this winter!

Who? That's the question.

I believe we were interested in Al-Nouri of wolves in the summer.. but Wolves look to be heading towards relegation.

Any other rumors about things in the works regarding a left back??

P.S. Cucurella looks like he's not worth the 60 odd mil and Julian Alvarez which is what Brighton were asking.. Txiki was right to say no.. even though he got a lot of shit on this forum at the time!
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Bensebaini perhaps an option. Mönchengladbach has some problems with FFP. They will sell anything.
 
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