Ref Watch

Paladin said:
This is stretching things a bit. When was the last time you heard there was no offside because a certain player didn't touch the ball? The player in an offside position touching the ball is mentioned very briefly in the LOTG. There is much more emphasis on players interfering with play or interfering with an opponent.

They should be discussing together whether Rashford was interfering with play, not whether or not he touched the ball.

And here's another point to think about. Akanji ran past Rashford, so in that sequence of play, Cann's view of Rashford was blocked. How can Cann say definitively that Rashford didn't touch the ball? Answer - he can't. So maybe it should have gone to VAR after all.

However you look at this, it was a stitch up. And Cann is as much to blame as Attwell.
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I’m stretching the imagination a bit? Jesus, have you read the rest of the forum?
 
Blueboy73 said:
We don't know what Cann said to Attwell as officials are not miked up, they can do this for Rugby and Cricket so why not football?
If Cann said he (Fishfingers) didn't touch the ball then he's culpable but we will never know and PGMOL will close ranks to cover their arses if asked.
If Cann told Attwell he wasn't sure then it should have been referred but in all the smoke and mirrors, gaslighting and bullshit does anyone know whether VAR looked at this or provided any advice?
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Yeah, there is plenty of speculation and hearsay, but PGMOL haven't as yet given a statement. I'm sure I've heard that Attwell consulted Cann on whether or not Rashford touched the ball. Cann must have said he didn't, but as proved above, Cann didn't know this for certain. So he has lied, and therefore cheated.

Attwell is said to have made the unilateral decision on whether or not there was interference with play or opponents. So to not ask Cann his opinion on that is a dereliction of his duties. He a cheat as well.
 
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Blueboy73 said:
Agree with virtually everything but to be fair to Cann, he raised his flag at the end of the phase to signal that correctly that it was offside.
Cann is the assistant and his role is to assist/advise the referee and he did this.
Attwell was the referee and chose to overrule/ignore his assistant and law 11.
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Does anybody remember from a couple of years ago when a ref gave a decision but the lines man disagreed and stood with his flag up until the ref went and had a word and changed his award to a corner. The linesman then performed a fist pump when the kick was taken. Or am imagining that they really should be team?
 
Well I've just read some of the comments on this thread from today, and I want to say I feel like this decision was made 5 minutes ago, I'm as angry and mad as I was on Saturday, not good for my health, I'm going to have to go for a walk to fooking calm down. What a disgraceful decision and down right cheating by that scumbag Atwell.
 
It`s started Poll has gone full Rag fan boy

Oh Graham Poll, you`re a fcuking Arsehole.....

Pep Guardiola is 'SCANDALOUS' to suggest refs are biased at Old Trafford, says ex-official​

Manchester City boss Pep Guardiola has been slammed by Graham Poll, who says, "you have to admire" officials for giving such a controversial Manchester United goal

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/pe...ster-city-man-city-derby-graham-poll-referees
 
Poll was the ref who persuaded me that there was something other than rubbish refereeing going on in the Premier League, think it was a game against Newcastle. Samaras headed home a corner unchallenged, no protest from the opposition, Poll awarded a free kick for something nobody in the ground had seen. Think the game finished 0-0.
 
zandvoort blue said:
It`s started Poll has gone full Rag fan boy

Oh Graham Poll, you`re a fcuking Arsehole.....

Pep Guardiola is 'SCANDALOUS' to suggest refs are biased at Old Trafford, says ex-official​

Manchester City boss Pep Guardiola has been slammed by Graham Poll, who says, "you have to admire" officials for giving such a controversial Manchester United goal

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/pe...ster-city-man-city-derby-graham-poll-referees
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Oh look another iffy fucker backing his mates up.

Admiration would be giving the correct decision and not shitting if of the swamp players & crowd. What he did if not bent was the exact opposite of having balls.

Fucking bent pussy.
 
Norbiton said:
Poll was the ref who persuaded me that there was something other than rubbish refereeing going on in the Premier League, think it was a game against Newcastle. Samaras headed home a corner unchallenged, no protest from the opposition, Poll awarded a free kick for something nobody in the ground had seen. Think the game finished 0-0.
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As I was typing my reply above I was thinking of that 'goal'. I'd taken a toon friend and we were in 135, the perfect spot to see the goal. Fuck all wrong with it, Toon mate just laughed.

I often wonder if Gorgeous George had the only goal of the game off the bench how his time with us would have worked out.
 
Paladin said:
Yeah, there is plenty of speculation and hearsay, but PGMOL haven't as yet given a statement. I'm sure I've heard that Attwell consulted Cann on whether or not Rashford touched the ball. Cann must have said he didn't, but as proved above, Cann didn't know this for certain. So he has lied, and therefore cheated.

Attwell is said to have made the unilateral decision on whether or not there was interference with play or opponents. So to not ask Cann his opinion on that is a dereliction of his duties. He a cheat as well.
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Agree about Attwell, he ignored the laws of the game that he is handsomely paid to ensure they are followed. No amount of gaslighting can escape this.
There is no reason officials cannot be miked up and the only reason I can think that they don't is it allows the opportunity to manipulate outcomes and make up a bullshit statement after the event on the occasions they consistently fail to follow the written laws.
If they're bothered about foul language being broadcast they could stop this overnight by issuing cautions. This would also prevent cunts like rat faced Fernández shoving his ugly mug in the faces of officials and set a better example for youngsters.
 
wolfie1988 said:
Move on. You'll send yourself daft if you let it eat at you.

It's not going to change anything now. Next game.....
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This is of course generally good advice.

But it’s also the reaction the league and PGMOL will want, so I am inclined to stay angry but focus it more toward finding ways to expose their incompetence/corruption more publicly (and regularly) moving forward to put pressure on them.

They don’t deserve resigned silence.
 
old blue said:
Does anybody remember from a couple of years ago when a ref gave a decision but the lines man disagreed and stood with his flag up until the ref went and had a word and changed his award to a corner. The linesman then performed a fist pump when the kick was taken. Or am imagining that they really should be team?
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I can't remember this but I hope it's true.
The lineman is there to assist and support the referee and if he has a better view of an event there's no reason the referee shouldn't back his colleague.
In my workplace I would be furious if my manager overruled me in a comparable scenario.
 
zandvoort blue said:
It`s started Poll has gone full Rag fan boy

Oh Graham Poll, you`re a fcuking Arsehole.....

Pep Guardiola is 'SCANDALOUS' to suggest refs are biased at Old Trafford, says ex-official​

Manchester City boss Pep Guardiola has been slammed by Graham Poll, who says, "you have to admire" officials for giving such a controversial Manchester United goal

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/pe...ster-city-man-city-derby-graham-poll-referees
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Same Graham Poll who said this :-

“All the refs wanted in a Man U game,” said Poll, “was to get the match over, without having made any controversial decisions against Fergie’s boys – and ideally with Man U having won.”

I read his book, came across as a right wanker and openly admits in various pieces that ref’s felt pressured to side with the rags under Fergie.
 
zandvoort blue said:
It`s started Poll has gone full Rag fan boy

Oh Graham Poll, you`re a fcuking Arsehole.....

Pep Guardiola is 'SCANDALOUS' to suggest refs are biased at Old Trafford, says ex-official​

Manchester City boss Pep Guardiola has been slammed by Graham Poll, who says, "you have to admire" officials for giving such a controversial Manchester United goal

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/pe...ster-city-man-city-derby-graham-poll-referees
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Brave to award a goal that was against the laws of the game the bent twat!
 
Dirty Harry said:
Same Graham Poll who said this :-

“All the refs wanted in a Man U game,” said Poll, “was to get the match over, without having made any controversial decisions against Fergie’s boys – and ideally with Man U having won.”

I read his book, came across as a right wanker and openly admits in various pieces that ref’s felt pressured to side with the rags under Fergie.
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I've bookmarked this comment on the off chance some thick Rag tries to use this as justification.
 
SebastianBlue said:
This is of course generally good advice.

But it’s also the reaction the league and PGMOL will want, so I am inclined to stay angry but focus it more toward finding ways to expose their incompetence/corruption more publicly (and regularly) moving forward to put pressure on them.

They don’t deserve resigned silence.
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This.

They rely on indifference and it becoming the next days chip paper.

They don’t deserve that anymore.
 
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