Ref Watch

[BossHog]

That in and of itself is corruption because it was a clear admission that a particular team was/is refereed to a different set of standards (https://www.planetfootball.com/nost...leys-performance-in-man-utd-2-0-arsenal-2004/)

Why has no one even tried to properly call it out?
With those comments he should be held to account.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Why has no one even tried to properly call it out?
With those comments he should be held to account.

There are 2 reasons I can think of from the top of my head:

1: Nobody wants to be the person who kills the golden goose - If the extent of the corruption is ever revealed, it could be essentially game over.
2: Fear of reprisals.

 

[Allnightlong]

There are 2 reasons I can think of from the top of my head:

1: Nobody wants to be the person who kills the golden goose - If the extent of the corruption is ever revealed, it could be essentially game over.
2: Fear of reprisals.

thats fair enough.

 

[hertsblue]

Oliver for Dippers v Chelsea and Alti for Rags v Arsenal. Bet no one saw that coming :)-

 

[blue61]

I see that there will be no change in offside law as it was deemed it works perfectly well, in reference to Rashford being offside

In other words it all depends on what the ref wants to decide

 

[SebastianBlue]

Wanted to share this as an example of how easy it would be to not only improve confidence in the integrity of officiating in the premier league, but also humanise referees by showing the shite they have to deal with throughout the match AND help out a stop to that shite (mostly from certain players and clubs).

The referee for the MLS-Liga MX all star game had a body cam for the match and it is an absolutely brilliant watch.



The only reason not to do this in the Premier League at this point is because you are either worried about how it will expose the incompetence of some of the referees or the bias/corruption.

It would be relative low cost and requires very little technical requirements for implementation (especially when compared to all of the other advertising related technical implementations they are constantly rolling out).

And I can guarantee this would be one of the most popular ways to watch a match (imagine watching live or the regular feed at home along with the ref cam on you phone or tablet with the officiating team audio).

 

[Blueboy73]

I see that there will be no change in offside law as it was deemed it works perfectly well, in reference to Rashford being offside

In other words it all depends on what the ref wants to decide

The law is fine, the issue on Saturday was the incompetent/spineless/cheating **** Attwell failed to do what he is very well paid to do which is to follow it.
All of this shite about subjective/grey areas/open to interpretation is bollocks.

The law was changed 2 years ago when we benefitted against Villa when Rodri came from an offside position to tackle Mings and set up Bernardo.
Mings wasn't in control of the ball as stated in the laws at the time so the goal was correctly given
The referee followed the law even though Walton made a tit of himself live on air by saying that referee didn't.
The law was changed because of this.

There was an outcry then to ensure this couldn't happen again.
Saturdays scenario won't happen again providing the referee follows the law and does what he is paid to do.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Wanted to share this as an example of how easy it would be to not only improve confidence in the integrity of officiating in the premier league, but also humanise referees by showing the shite they have to deal with throughout the match AND help out a stop to that shite (mostly from certain players and clubs).

The referee for the MLS-Liga MX all star game had a body cam for the match and it is an absolutely brilliant watch.



The only reason not to do this in the Premier League at this point is because you are either worried about how it will expose the incompetence of some of the referees or the bias/corruption.

It would be relative low cost and requires very little technical requirements for implementation (especially when compared to all of the other advertising related technical implementations they are constantly rolling out).

And I can guarantee this would be one of the most popular ways to watch a match (imagine watching live or the regular feed at home along with the ref cam on you phone or tablet with the officiating team audio).

Fascinating video. Love the way he tried to speak two languages, most of our refs probably struggle with English. Would be brilliant if this happened over here. Every PL ref should wear one and the full stream should be available for the whole game

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

IFAB have just announced a purge on time wasting & refs to be mic’ed up at the Club World Cup, it seems they are looking at following the World Cup model of timekeeping. Oh and our old friend Alty Taylor is gonna be one of the officials trialing it, a step in the right direction but the PL are that arrogant & reliant on their golden goose that I fear it’ll be another five years before we see it here, when in reality it should be next season

 

[HypnoticBlue]

IFAB have just announced a purge on time wasting & refs to be mic’ed up at the Club World Cup, it seems they are looking at following the World Cup model of timekeeping. Oh and our old friend Alty Taylor is gonna be one of the officials trialing it, a step in the right direction but the PL are that arrogant & reliant on their golden goose that I fear it’ll be another five years before we see it here, when in reality it should be next season

Strange how they are being mic'd up to hear about time wasting, but not to stop diving, cheating, and corruption.
The subjective view from Pigmol will be that we dont have any of those problems so we don't need it, but thanks anyway. W4nkers

 

[Dodge]

So, IFAB discussed the "goal", checked whether there was a loophole in the offside law that could be used to the benefit of the attacking team, and decided that there was no loophole to close.

Thereby confirming that that whole shitshow was down to the complete and utter incompetence of the matchday officials.

We await an explanation and unreserved apology from PGMOL.

Yeah right...

 

[Blueboy73]

IFAB have just announced a purge on time wasting & refs to be mic’ed up at the Club World Cup, it seems they are looking at following the World Cup model of timekeeping. Oh and our old friend Alty Taylor is gonna be one of the officials trialing it, a step in the right direction but the PL are that arrogant & reliant on their golden goose that I fear it’ll be another five years before we see it here, when in reality it should be next season

PGMOL went against VAR guidance in 19/20 by allowing VAR officials to decide penalty awards rather than the onfield referee.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they chose to ignore it, they're certainly arrogant enough and it wouldn't be the first time.

 

[Blueboy73]

Strange how they are being mic'd up to hear about time wasting, but not to stop diving, cheating, and corruption.
The subjective view from Pigmol will be that we dont have any of those problems so we don't need it, but thanks anyway. W4nkers

They do like a subjective view do PGMOL, our impartial guardians and protectors of the laws of the game. A true bastion of integrity.

 

[Paladin]

PGMOL went against VAR guidance in 19/20 by allowing VAR officials to decide penalty awards rather than the onfield referee.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they chose to ignore it, they're certainly arrogant enough and it wouldn't be the first time.

If they ignore it, surely Oliver and Taylor will be blacklisted by FIFA. I can't see them looking that to much.

Webb probably knows he will have to come into line at some point.

 

[Blueboy73]

So, IFAB discussed the "goal", checked whether there was a loophole in the offside law that could be used to the benefit of the attacking team, and decided that there was no loophole to close.

Thereby confirming that that whole shitshow was down to the complete and utter incompetence of the matchday officials.

We await an explanation and unreserved apology from PGMOL.

Yeah right...

I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!

 

[Paladin]

The law is fine, the issue on Saturday was the incompetent/spineless/cheating **** Attwell failed to do what he is very well paid to do which is to follow it.
All of this shite about subjective/grey areas/open to interpretation is bollocks.

The law was changed 2 years ago when we benefitted against Villa when Rodri came from an offside position to tackle Mings and set up Bernardo.
Mings wasn't in control of the ball as stated in the laws at the time so the goal was correctly given
The referee followed the law even though Walton made a tit of himself live on air by saying that referee didn't.
The law was changed because of this.

There was an outcry then to ensure this couldn't happen again.
Saturdays scenario won't happen again providing the referee follows the law and does what he is paid to do.

Great post, perfectly summarising the situation.

PGMOL would be advised to apologise and pick a scapegoat for the Fernandes equaliser. If they don't, they will have players the length and breadth of the country shielding the ball from their offside positions, claiming exemption from being penalised. It'll be chaos.

 

[Blueboy73]

If they ignore it, surely Oliver and Taylor will be blacklisted by FIFA. I can't see them looking that to much.

Webb probably knows he will have to come into line at some point.

Webb will check with his mate the GPC.
The CEO of the PL will ask the red arsecheeks for permission to use it, the same CEO whose appointment they approved.

 

[Blueboy73]

Great post, perfectly summarising the situation.

PGMOL would be advised to apologise and pick a scapegoat for the Fernandes equaliser. If they don't, they will have players the length and breadth of the country shielding the ball from their offside positions, claiming exemption from being penalised. It'll be chaos.

Pep has said we won't ask for an apology and I believe as head coach he's trying to keep his players focused on the future and looking back in anger (no pun intended) will affect their focus.

It will be interesting to see if PGMOL do apologise but I'm not holding my breath and us not kicking up a fuss suits them.

PGMOL should apologise but they're so arrogant I wouldn't e surprised if they don't.

 

[HypnoticBlue]

Pep has said we won't ask for an apology and I believe as head coach he's trying to keep his players focused on the future and looking back in anger (no pun intended) will affect their focus.

It will be interesting to see if PGMOL do apologise but I'm not holding my breath and us not kicking up a fuss suits them.

PGMOL should apologise but they're so arrogant I wouldn't e surprised if they don't.

But as a City fan I want Pep and the club to kick off big time and at least rattle their cages somewhat.

 

[SebastianBlue]

But as a City fan I want Pep and the club to kick off big time and at least rattle their cages somewhat.

I wonder if we are going about it behind the scenes, rather than more publicly.