Trevor Sinclair

ancoats said:
Trevor is a great lad, not a racist, just a normal lad, OK we all have our problems, show me somebody who is Mr clean,
many people hate the royals and the Queen and that is fine and just like anybody else it's a view that believes in,

Your inner demons are hard to hide or to keep in control ? we all have them,

“He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone”
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He that cannot controleth thy behaviour when drunketh should put down the fucking drink.
 
inchy14 said:
An old guy had a bad fall late one night a few weeks back outside our house. We went out, put a blanket around him, a towel over the head wound and rang an ambulance.
Firstly I was on hold for 5 minutes.
Then I was being asked absolutely ridiculous questions about the guy, was he on medication etc. I told them I’ve no idea who he is but just he’d fallen outside where I lived.
I pointed out that I’d been on hold for 5 minutes and that if they just sent an ambulance and let me get off the call whoever was now on hold could get through. He thought I’d invented the wheel or something with that suggestion.
They rang me back for another person to talk to me about the old guy, again I told them I didn’t know him.
We finally managed to unlock the guys phone and ring family who came and collected him and took him to hospital after 1.5 hours. I kid you not.
I’d have done that myself if they’d told me not to move him. Utter joke it is. NHS is utterly fucked.
No ambulance showed
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My Mam has had a few falls, she 91, but she fell again before Christmas, and it was a particularly bad fall, she waited one half hours for an ambulance but initially they told me it would 5 hours. NHS at the moment is terrible.
 
eastmanc said:
My Mam has had a few falls, she 91, but she fell again before Christmas, and it was a particularly bad fall, she waited one half hours for an ambulance but initially they told me it would 5 hours. NHS at the moment is terrible.
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inchy14 said:
An old guy had a bad fall late one night a few weeks back outside our house. We went out, put a blanket around him, a towel over the head wound and rang an ambulance.
Firstly I was on hold for 5 minutes.
Then I was being asked absolutely ridiculous questions about the guy, was he on medication etc. I told them I’ve no idea who he is but just he’d fallen outside where I lived.
I pointed out that I’d been on hold for 5 minutes and that if they just sent an ambulance and let me get off the call whoever was now on hold could get through. He thought I’d invented the wheel or something with that suggestion.
They rang me back for another person to talk to me about the old guy, again I told them I didn’t know him.
We finally managed to unlock the guys phone and ring family who came and collected him and took him to hospital after 1.5 hours. I kid you not.
I’d have done that myself if they’d told me not to move him. Utter joke it is. NHS is utterly fucked.
No ambulance showed
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Similar incident before Christmas in ‘Home Bargains’ with me and the staff there, lady just collapsed in front of us, was going in and out of consciousness, staff phoned 999, same thing, shit loads of questions to which they kept replying “we don’t know, we don’t know her, we just work here”.
Kept phoning back as this lady was in serious trouble (they’d previously been told NOT to phone back again) again, same round of questions, going round in circles, almost like they were trying to buy themselves some time, eventually an ambulance turns up 90 minutes later.

Honestly, if me or a loved one ever need an ambulance, unless they’re in bits on the floor I’d be sorely tempted to get them in the car and drive them to the hospital, it’s really put me off having any confidence in the NHS as things stand, it’s clearly massively understaffed and underfunded.
 
ancoats said:
Trevor is a great lad, not a racist, just a normal lad, OK we all have our problems, show me somebody who is Mr clean,
many people hate the royals and the Queen and that is fine and just like anybody else it's a view that believes in,

Your inner demons are hard to hide or to keep in control ? we all have them,

“He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone”
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Not a racist, apart from calling a copper a white ****.
 
Dirty Harry said:
it’s really put me off having any confidence in the NHS as things stand, it’s clearly massively understaffed and underfunded.
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Just remember, this has been a long term assassination of the NHS by a dogmatic failing government, all to make a tidy butty for themselves and mates, not arsed about the health cost to the public.
 
the whole police incident isn't relevant in my opinion, he was on the air after that anyway.

He was incredibly disrespectful of our late Queen, arguably the greatest head of Monarch in all history and his comments were ill timed & insensitive to the family whom were mourning the loss of their Mother, Grand Mother, Great Grandmother.

Should know better and shouldn't be offered another chance.
 
BlueMooner87 said:
the whole police incident isn't relevant in my opinion, he was on the air after that anyway.

He was incredibly disrespectful of our late Queen, arguably the greatest head of Monarch in all history and his comments were ill timed & insensitive to the family whom were mourning the loss of their Mother, Grand Mother, Great Grandmother.

Should know better and shouldn't be offered another chance.
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He wasn't wrong though, insensitive with timing of course
www.theguardian.com

Buckingham Palace banned ethnic minorities from office roles, papers reveal

Exclusive: Documents also shed light on Queen’s ongoing exemption from race and sex discrimination laws
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
Might be your queen and I certainly wasn't in mourning for a 90+ year old pampered billionaire who was able to pass on the family's fortune without paying due taxes
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
Not a racist, apart from calling a copper a white ****.
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why does that make him a racist ? words are often spoken in anger, and the racist card comes out far too quickly.
Yes, it was wrong in what he said, and he's knows better, not a racist just angry
 
bluesmith said:
Not a racist, just someone convicted of racial abuse after admitting to the racial abuse charge?
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again, that does not make anybody a racist ? Wrong yes, stupid yes, but we are never going to be able to live together as one (humans) if we flash the racist card all the time, people get angry and say all sorts of things they don't mean in the heat of the moment, being a racist is a lifestyle not a spoken word
 
Gordyola said:
He wasn't wrong though, insensitive with timing of course
www.theguardian.com

Buckingham Palace banned ethnic minorities from office roles, papers reveal

Exclusive: Documents also shed light on Queen’s ongoing exemption from race and sex discrimination laws
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
Might be your queen and I certainly wasn't in mourning for a 90+ year old pampered billionaire who was able to pass on the family's fortune without paying due taxes
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The article says it happened until the late 60's, as my name suggests I was born in 87 so don't have the experience of how racism was back then, I do know some of the songs I was hearing at Maine Road in the 90's were far from politically correct.

I admit I haven't read the whole article but as it says until the late 60's it would suggest in the 70's this was changed, which is pretty progressive for the time, we have to remember it was only last year that we had our very first person of colour leading the country as Prime Minister.

I will never be a racist sympathiser, I will never understand how or why people judge & discriminate people by their skin colour its completely nonsensical. I do however sympathise with people being held to modern standards over acts that happened in far different periods of history, that's without going into the argument that she probably didn't make half of the decisions about things that happened around her.

I also have sympathy for anyone born into that family, you cant do a thing that a normal person can without being under a microscope, so they are loaded, they cant enjoy it properly. They don't have a life their life is a job and while they aren't laying bricks in winter or any other normal difficult lowish paid job, they also cant go to the football sink a dozen pints and call the referee a cheating **** without it all being over the paper the next day.
 
ancoats said:
why does that make him a racist ? words are often spoken in anger, and the racist card comes out far too quickly.
Yes, it was wrong in what he said, and he's knows better, not a racist just angry
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He’s using the guys skin colour with an expletive. It’s as racist as it gets.

If he wasn’t racist he’d simply have just called him a ****.
 
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