PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Kippaxpete]

I think it's 'beyond reasonable doubt' in a criminal case, but the burden of proof isn't as high in a civil case. Not sure how it's worded but it's along the lines of reasonable standard I think.

While I'm happy to be corrected, my understanding is that any evidence is likely to be considered by reference to the lower burden of proof applied in all civil proceedings, that being the 'balance of probability'. Once a thorough investigation has been completed, it is for the complainant (in this case the Premiership) to present evidence in support of their case to demonstrate it was more likely the club were in breach than not. This is very much a double-edged sword though in that, while it isn't necessary for the Premiership to find evidence of a 'smoking gun' as it were (i.e. to meet the 'beyond reasonable doubt' threshold'), they need to be able to make a persuasive argument to the so-called 'independent commission' that their interpretation of the rules is beyond question and how those rules were breached.

 

[dave_blue12]

I wonder if the yank redshirts have waved the spectre of the ESL to force the PL to act.

 

[citymad]

...who's on VAR?

more like..who's on first ?

 

[MadchesterCity]

It just makes you want to fuck it all off, honestly. If we've broken the rules (big if) then I'll be fucking gutted. If we haven't, and it's another witch hunt, then I'm just about fucking sick of this sport.

Business?

 

[lancs blue]

Hope we get put in the conference.

Back to 3pm Saturday kick offs and proper grounds.

The National League is on BT Sport, we'd be on every other week!

 

[dronefromsector7G]

And if true I’m afraid we deserve to be. Club is in the fucking mud right now.

Sniff sniff

 

[Brunswick Blue]

I'll not take any notice of this until there's a to let sign at the Etihad and a for sale at the training complex.

 

[bondsman]

No chance. We’ve seen it with the media….no matter is said about our club, we ignore it, then invite them to the stadium with open arms, free food, best seats etc….
Expect the premier league & prosecutors to be give Tunnel Club seats for games next season

Not sure they will fancy it in the Championship ;)

 

[Kazzydeyna]

I have just spoken to a friend inside CFG.

They aren't worried, and neither should we be.

There are no surprises. Khaldoon will burn down the entire Premier League house if it comes to it.

Love it. Obviously I wouldn’t ask you to betray a confidence but after speaking to your friend, would it be safe to say that you are also feeling confident.

I remember you from the CAS case giving similar bullish statements which I can tell you, were a great support to people like myself and countless others.

How confident (scale of 1 to 10) would you say the club are mate?

 

[Keeper!]

Financial Returns can be as detailed as the company involved requires. Now if the PL has a specific accusation, let's say "City claim Gabriel Jesus was paid £100k pw, but we (the PL) have received "credible" accusations from the Hateful Eight that City were making additional payments into an offshore trust fund totalling £4.8m per annum, to which Jesus is a beneficiary", then great.

Let the PL make their SPECIFIC accusations known & City will answer them. So far all I've heard is:

Premier League: "The Hateful Eight clubs who wrote a letter to the us on Arsenal headed paper demanding City be thrown out of the PL, think City have been up to something dodgy. Can you help us build a case against you please?

City: Go fuck yourself. We'll see you in the Supreme Court.

It's really that simple...

Maybe Jesus is the whistleblower ;) lol

 

[domalino]

If we have cooked the books, it must have serious consequences for HMR Customs and revenue along with our investors like Silverlake.

Stop saying shit like this, you know it's not true.

There's a world of difference between breaking or circumventing Premier League rules and breaking the law.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

Not sure that's true.

The Panama Papers leaked documents have been used by governments around the world to convict people inc. in the USA. The rules vary but are usually based around the idea you can't use information you stole, not information that was mass leaked by someone unrelated.

Plus the Premier League panel thing is arbitration so like CAS could accept them.

Not in the UK they haven't. Any evidence gained illegally is not permissible

 

[Gordyola]

What worries me, is that the PL like everyone else saw UEFA get bent over by us as CAS. They do not want to be in the same situation and therefore have they taken 4 years to do a proper job and make sure that at least some of this sticks?

Its only 18 months as City went to court to test the legality of handing over detailed accounts which they lost and then complied with the requirements of The PL

 

[HelloCity]

I’d imagine it’s likely we’ll be found guilty with the book thrown at us before it ends up in court. There’s no way this process ends at the next step.

 

[PeterBarnesShorts]

This ‘cheating’ that the club is accused of,has hardly been worth it really.Had to walk away from Kane,Sanchez and a few other deals that were deemed too expensive,and have never come anywhere near to spending what Chelsea have in the last year.What are they fucking on about!

 

[ShedDweller]

I have supported City for over 60 years and what a ride it has been. Never a dull moment. I get great consolation from knowing what agony our opponents are suffering to go to such lengths to smear our successes. I just love our club and thank our owners for the joy they have given me and our supporters.

Yeah, and our owner and management team have been under fire for the majority of that period, its basically racism. There's no excuse for it.

This is the bloke that provided funding for Barclays Bank during the 2008 banking crisis. Think on that... if Barclays had gone under or had to be nationalised this country would have been in unprecedented shite.

The same bloke thats involved in rebalancing his countries economy away from fossil fuels with huge investment programmes in stuff that matters such as water, telecoms, green energy etc. All real things which will have positive impact on the world in the future.

And so the PL gimps get in bed with a bunch of American frat boy hedge fund wankers that are basically no better than your local Harold Penk bookie. These are the people calling the shots now in our sport (and plenty of other things).

 

[oakiecokie]

Some decent days out in the Championship, I'll dust off my massive banana....... ;^)

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooo Matron !!

 

[Keeper!]

Stop saying shit like this, you know it's not true.

There's a world of difference between breaking or circumventing Premier League rules and breaking the law.

I think these charges have made this a lot more serious than anyone thought.

No one expected this to go any further, this is a shocker today.

As said earlier, if we are so squeaky clean why have we let it go on for so long?

 

[levets]

They didn't even do Soriano the courtesy of giving him the charges before giving them to the media and specifically to certain journalists. City have won 4 of the last 5 PL titles and that's how the league chose to handle it. That means we have absolutely no relationship of any real respect with the people running the league, and that's squarely at Soriano's door as he is the guy who sits in all those meetings.

However, Tariq Panja was aware this was coming, hence his snidey tweet yesterday

 

[Fordyboy46]

On a serious note, all this shit could lead to an escalation of bellend rival fans getting arsey with blues, and blues fighting back