PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

domalino said:
Come on, you’re smart enough to know that’s not what CAS says. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

City did not prove ADUG didn’t send the money, UEFA failed to prove they did.

That’s why I wrote a whole paragraph in my original comment about it being foolish to assume CAS and the PL panel would reach the same verdict because they may see different evidence or just be convinced to fall 1v2 instead of 2v1.
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I was going to write some more, but I will take the compliment in the first paragraph and leave it at that. ;)
 
Agueroooo9320 said:
I like the latest @projectriver tweet that he has posted.




This is what I suspect is happening. the PL is hiding behind technical list of alleged breaches without specifying the accusation and throwing a broad catch all argument. I suspect that is because they do not have a specific case with ironclad proof to prove a wrongdoing. rather they are throwing everything out in an attempt to get access to all our files and documents and get us on something, ie a fishing expedition.

if they really have clear proof of false accounting, they need to come out and specify the issue and say exactly how we cheated PL and the big audit groups.
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If this is the case, then it should be pretty simple for city to handle isnt it...
 
domalino said:
Come on, you’re smart enough to know that’s not what CAS says. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

City did not prove ADUG didn’t send the money, UEFA failed to prove they did.

That’s why I wrote a whole paragraph in my original comment about it being foolish to assume CAS and the PL panel would reach the same verdict because they may see different evidence or just be convinced to fall 1v2 instead of 2v1.
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I get the feeling you think we are fucked, Dom.

Not a criticism. I’m back and forth.
 
Akiva said:
Sickened they are using our club to peddle their own interests, cheered on by the media and our bent as fuck rivals (not good enough to beat us on the park) alongside their smooth brained fans.

They don't have anything tangible here at all, if even half these allegations were real it would be an issue for HMRC. There'd be criminal prosecutions. Seizing of assets. Interviews. More.

It's all a farce, a last roll of the dice to stop City and ensure the "top 6" get what they feel is due. And they've already accomplished what they set out to - they know this shit won't stick in court, not with a literal army of lawyers and a blank check against it, but they've yet again shifted the narrative on to City and created the illusion of long term instability for the club.

But then, we should be used to this, yeah? The media have been downplaying our achievements since we started achieving. Every last wanker associated with the Rags and the bin dipping Scousers has long since given up pretending like their shite clubs are good enough to beat us at actual football. The PL knows full well the weight of both and has been trying to sink us for years, you just have to watch our matches every week and it's the same fucking story. City vs 12 men.

No more. Bring down the drawbridges, fuck the media off from our ground and let's stop pretending any of our rivals aren't trying to knife us. When the rags shat the bed against the gooners a few weeks ago, predictably, I saw a few round here actually cheering on those twats from the Swamp. Enough.

CTID.
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Up the draw bridge ;-)
 
halfcenturyup said:
The 100 breaches thing is a red herring imo. If, say, the Etihad deal was being targeted, that would affect 5 or 6 articles in the PL rules each year of the review since it started. That's about 30-40 breaches all on its own. I am guessing there are probably 5 or 6 issues that repeat over several years and affect several articles in the rules.

Mancini seems to be one.
Players image rights another.
I suppose the same sponsorship funding issues at UEFA.
Not complying with UEFA is another one.
And
Not complying with PL another.

That's five, plus some others maybe.

100 is a big number, 5,6, or 7 not so much.

We will be OK I think ;)
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The non-compliance with UEFA and PL seem a nailed on guilty verdict. We were already found guilty at CAS of the UEFA non-compliance, so I guess it’s impossible that the verdict is any different here? I don’t even care about these charges and it seems the club don’t either.

As you say, the bulk of the other charges are actually likely to be repeat offences of the same charge. Defeat one, and I guess we defeat all subsequent years of the same charge.
 
argyle said:
Anyone think there is a possibilty that, like what happened with UEFA, the PL panel will find us guilty no matter what evidence we provide? Forcing us to appeal and string this all out, further damaging us?
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I think that parts a given. PL appointed "impartial" panel of united and arsenal fans? Lol
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Going to ask a question which may sound ridiculously silly. At what point do City find out what the *actual* allegations are, and not some vague, broad catch all argument? When they arrive in front of a panel? Or will the facts be laid out before then so that their own arguments can be in place prior to it reaching a panel, as like in a court of law where the accused knows exactly what he or she is supposed to have done wrong?
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I am hoping the fact that City corrected the original release, as it contained references to incorrect clauses, meant they knew what was coming. A few posters have also said people they know inside City have said something similar (Ric & TH)
Christ do they do litre bottles of Gaviscon, I have some much of it over the last day I am starting to use it as a “mixer”, I may try it with gin on the weekend.
 
hertsblue said:
I think these clubs should be told in no uncertain terms that bar the team and coaching staff, all other members ie Directors, owners are banned from our ground
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Id sooner let them all in and employ a chef with very low hygiene habits and moral standards.
 
Keeper! said:
no you don't, winners attract hate
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I remember my "mentor" in my favourite job ever telling me: people will forgive you for making a mistake, but they will never forgive you for being right.

And my boss in that new job, gave me a book on the first day and told me I would need it: The Art of War by Sun Tzu.

Great job.
 
Eric Hitchmough said:
I get the feeling you think we are fucked, Dom.

Not a criticism. I’m back and forth.
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No, I'm more of the opinion that we probably did some dodgy stuff, but it's impossible for the PL to prove unless they have a source of evidence we don't know about. Stefan mentioned a whistleblower in the Twitter conference yesterday, I'm thinking more like they've been handed the full trove of leaked documents.
 
domalino said:
No, I'm more of the opinion that we probably did some dodgy stuff, but it's impossible for the PL to prove unless they have a source of evidence we don't know about. Stefan mentioned a whistleblower in the Twitter conference yesterday, I'm thinking more like they've been handed the full trove of leaked documents.
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At which point would said source of evidence (which we don't yet know about) have to be laid bare? In front of the commission or beforehand?
 
Not sure whether I can link this Forbes article or not, so Mods feel free to remove if it’s against the code of conduct.

I’m not a Forbes fan, but at least it shows balance and PL motive…

www.forbes.com

Self-Interested Premier League Action Against Manchester City Proves Need For Regulation

Like a marina in Monaco or a bank account in the Cayman Islands, if you have the money to buy a hundred-year-old English establishment it’s almost a point of principle that questions won’t be asked about the source of your income or what you intend to do with it.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
 
The Stockport Iniesta said:
Spurs are like the other clubs pet poodle, gets it's belly tickled occasionally and does as it's told.
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The biggest crime we have committed since the takeover was agreeing to be part of the new Super League with these snidey fuckers. That was almost unforgivable for me given how we had been treated by them. A huge mistake.
 
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