PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[twosips]

You did well mate. Really good. Bet there was a million things you wanted to say that you forgot afterward but you did well in what I imagine was a very small time slot

Oh absolutely. The amount of times I went to say something (I wanted to talk about Chelsea's spending, the white paper and government regulation timing etc) but was cut off mid point and then the conversation went somewhere else. It's so hard to keep on track, but ah well.

 

[Phoenix900000]

Did I also hear that right on the overlap? The bellend arsenal fan linking this to match fixing and financial doping to the fact we took Adebayor, nasri and toure off them? Fuck me the way a couple of those turned out and the money we paid at the time they should be thanking us!

Hurting that those players found more success playing for us than them (barring Adebayor). Deluded bunch really

 

[twosips]

@twosips did a cracking job on that show. Neville occasionally speaks sense (evidently self-motivated, in part) but Carragher is such a gurning arse.

Thanks! Sorta felt like I actually got Neville to defend City when I called him and Carragher out on not liking City, so Neville felt an urge to appear impartial for once ha.

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

Did I also hear that right on the overlap? The bellend arsenal fan linking this to match fixing and financial doping to the fact we took Adebayor, nasri and toure off them? Fuck me the way a couple of those turned out and the money we paid at the time they should be thanking us!

Do people honestly believe that sustained drug taking that gives someone a physical advantage in a match or paying off a referee or opposition player are equivalent to spending money just because Wenger called it doping once? It's so painfully obvious a different moral and legal category that I don't really know what to do with that.

 

[Sir peace frog]

Is this the truth or just made up bollocks. I`m quite a few of us would like to know.

we were allowed to choose one of the judges ,why wouldn't we choose one of our own , it was common knowledge

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

I read Martin Samuel's article todan and obviously I agree with it. Martin has been a consistent critic of FFP and it is good to have such a constant and articulate voice, but it must be stressed that the case against City is not based on any failure to comply with FFP and some on here don't seem to realise this and are still talking about smashing the cartel and bringing down FFP. These are laudable aims but are of little relevance to our present difficulties. They will only become relevant when we win our case, the PL has to be replaced and an independent regulator appointed. That regulator must be GENUINELY independent so that the days of the redtop conspiracy are over. Some form of financial regulation and probably cost control are necessary but NOT one which entrenches the same clubs at the top as FFP tries to do. Attention has to be paid to the whole question of owner investment, and I believe it must be allowed and encouraged but not just to allow super rich owners "to buy the pot". I don't know how to do this but what we want is integrity and genuine concern for football from the regulator.

 

[snorky]

Mate, this is exactly what they want to do to us. Make it stop being fun. Make us stop wanting to go.
Don’t fucking let them win.
Get in there on Saturday and sing your heart out.
We fight till the end and need to let the world know that!

May be a tad quiet Saturday mate ;)
But you are spot on otherwise. Even I am going....
Can someone send me a map please.

 

[Phoenix900000]

Carragher simply hasn't read the details. I'm not sure he's read the Der Spiegel report. I'm not convinced, deep down, he understand the accusations. I don't think he read and/or understood the CAS report, or what the time barred really meant.

Obviously - obviously - City have taken advantage of their links with commercial partners attached to the club. Like United, like Leicester, like Bayern, like Stoke, like Juventus like [insert a dozen other football clubs] But obviously those links are mutually beneficial for those sponsors. But City are the most successful club in England over the last decade, are on TV more regularly than anyone, and have exploited emerging commercial markets in creative ways as you would expect directors who are at the cutting edge of European football. He still seems to think that Real Madrid should be top of the table because they sell more shirts and have more Facebook followers. Well, if Spurs made £442.8m, having not won a trophy in a decade while in the UEFA conference league, why shouldn't City have made £619.1m winning the league and getting to the semi finals of the CL? That sounds about right to me.

Carragher can't read

Call me surprised :)

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

I fucking detest Carragher. Pieces of scum like him now have the mindset "well, that's it- City cheated so we won the league those years we came second."

Even better - it will be a bitter and incessant feeling that will fuck them off big time

 

[manimanc]

The same sky sports who wouldn’t shut up about the World Cup in Qatar and their human rights laws are now creaming themselves at them taking over the scum!

Tells you everything mate.

 

[Blue Til Death]

Carragher simply hasn't read the details. I'm not sure he's read the Der Spiegel report. I'm not convinced, deep down, he understand the accusations. I don't think he read and/or understood the CAS report, or what the time barred really meant.

Obviously - obviously - City have taken advantage of their links with commercial partners attached to the club. Like United, like Leicester, like Bayern, like Stoke, like Juventus like [insert a dozen other football clubs]. But obviously those links are mutually beneficial for those sponsors. But City are the most successful club in England over the last decade, are on TV more regularly than anyone, and have exploited emerging commercial markets in creative ways as you would expect directors who are at the cutting edge of European football. He still seems to think that Real Madrid should be top of the table because they sell more shirts and have more Facebook followers. Well, if Spurs made £442.8m, having not won a trophy in a decade while in the UEFA conference league, why shouldn't City have made £619.1m winning the league and getting to the semi finals of the CL? That sounds about right to me.

So we’ve established spitty can’t read, it’s a lot easier to establish what an utter **** he is…!

 

[ysmsa]

Samuel's is a West Ham so not in the pocket of the Red Stains, unlike 90% of the other wankers.

Always like the Hammers, even with their free ground and dodgy Argentinian transfers :-)

 

[Sir peace frog]

I rekon if we get found guilty I think the super league will rear its head again and this time I'd probably back it, its amazing that they're charging us for financial breaches there just out to get us and the premier league are so corrupt

if we are found guilty we wouldn't be invited

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

The more I think of it.. the more I think relegation would be off the cards (and stripping titles)

City has Pep and Haaland, two of the biggest stars and attractions in world football, playing in the Premier League. City has rivalries with United and Liverpool, big for TV deals views.
TV companies paying for the Premier League product wont be happy losing City, Haaland et al.

City owners have pumped millions into the UK economy, the UK Government wont take kindly to them being fucked over.

Stripping titles leaves open the chance for lawsuits from clubs who were relegated or missed out on money from previous wins/champions league.

£100 M Fine, 15 points deduction and 2 Transfer window bans (after Summer). I think most would accept that?

Bollox they would.

 

[WRicko]

Well if the police have decent evidence you might have done a murder, you refuse to co-operate, and then at trial produce a load of stuff they had asked you for and you'd refused you might still get off but the judge might charge you for wasting everyone's time.

But the CPS might drop the murder case for lack of evidence. My point is we cannot be charged for dodgy financial just because we did not provide the proof or more specifically the proof they asked for which might include a load of commercial sensitive stuff and perhaps stuff that is beyond there scope / jurisdiction financials of sponsors and not in our gift to give

Remember who runs the show our rival they would love our sponsor info. They seem to have a clear agenda to say that sponsors are more connected to us than they are related party etc

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Carragher simply hasn't read the details. I'm not sure he's read the Der Spiegel report. I'm not convinced, deep down, he understand the accusations. I don't think he read and/or understood the CAS report, or what the time barred really meant.

Obviously - obviously - City have taken advantage of their links with commercial partners attached to the club. Like United, like Leicester, like Bayern, like Stoke, like Juventus like [insert a dozen other football clubs]. But obviously those links are mutually beneficial for those sponsors. But City are the most successful club in England over the last decade, are on TV more regularly than anyone, and have exploited emerging commercial markets in creative ways as you would expect directors who are at the cutting edge of European football. Txiki Begiristain proposed all this at Barcelona, and the dinosaurs there saw him off for it, so he took the template and brought it to rainy Manchester cos he'd figured out business plans and football plans that the rest of European football are now trying to copy. Carragher still seems to think that Real Madrid should be top of the table because they sell more shirts and have more Facebook followers. Well, if Spurs made £442.8m, having not won a trophy in a decade while in the UEFA conference league, why shouldn't City have made £619.1m winning the league and getting to the semi finals of the CL? That sounds about right to me.

Carragher isn't interested inthe truth, fact or detail - he's just another entitled and gobby dipper who is hurting because the cunts he supports are nowhere near our level.

 

[Keith Moon]

I think the point below indicates that we're using the same strategy as we did with UEFA, we keep the powder dry until the independent & impartial hearing.

5. In respect of the period from December 2018 to date, the Premier League Rules applicable in the relevant Seasons requiring a member club to cooperate with, and assist, the Premier League in its investigations, including by providing documents and information to the Premier League in the utmost good faith, namely:

 

[No1 was Colin bell]

Fantastic article. Genuinely.

If only every fucker read it and took it in.

It is. Love the last sentence.

Years mate! Genuinely. And thank you! I've got a sneaky feeling city will prevail

are you the chap in the sky debate with Neville? If so very well played mate. Proud to watch that. You were brilliant. If it wasn’t you sorry, who was it as want to pay them on the virtual back.

 

[Fordyboy46]

Is he the thick twat that moaned about us taking their best players and referenced Kolo? I turned off that point

Yes mate

 

[Blu3m00n91]

What makes me laugh in the overlap is the denial of Gary and Jamie about the revenue we made last season. ‘It’s impossible to earn more than Madrid and United’. They just can’t face the fact that we’re at the top table.