Take your point but….if the PL are resisting the introduction of an Independent Regulator then this would appear than no more than “brushing things under the carpet” which considering it took them 4 years would not look great and would not appease the hateful 8. If they carry on and find us “guilty” then the question must be how did this happen for so long on your watch PL. Whichever happens the PL is shown up for what it is - negligent, amateurish and incompetent and are therefore fucked whatever the outcome.
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PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules
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M18CTID
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This is the mental thing really. If one or both of United and Liverpool are bought by someone from that part of the world then it's entirely conceivable that they suddenly become allies rather than enemies in the boardroom.Was talking to someone this morning and he said something that I hadn't considered before. The deadline for bidders trying to purchase United is next week. The Glazers are trying to sell them to the highest bidder, and they don't care who that is. But all of the highest bidders are from the middle east.
This investigation into ADUG could put off potential middle eastern investors from buying them, so now they are shitting it. Which would probably explain why loads of articles were published yesterday where the value was put out at 5 billion, when 6-7 billion had been the muted price since November.
Liverpool are also in the same predicament, as they are also up for sale. Which makes me sort of wary. Could someone somewhere have enough power to orchestrate all of this, to put off middle eastern investors from buying the PL's crown jewels?
Lets face it. If City, Newcastle, United and Liverpool are all owned by the middle east, the power shifts elsewhere. It puts the PL in danger, because they can collude to form breakaways, attend competitions in the middle east. It means that the PL would be losing a significant amount of power and control of their cash cow.
It’s 1.30am here. Will have a look tomorrow when I wake up.Had a quick look and couldn't find those quotes, any chance you have links?
Not doubting they exist I'd just like to be able to refer others to them.
Not wishing to detract from the current Narrative but Talk$hit are really going after us this week. Today they are talking about the Midlands police making Emptyhad comments.
I've just stuck this on YouTube as a response, I'm going full banshee mode on the ignorant clubs outside of the Cartel, the sheep can't see what is happening to us affects them too. Fools the lot of them!
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We get you don't like City TalkSport, you have made that narrative very clear.
In this article though you have shown that the cartel of Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal hegemony remains strong and influences the little clubs like Villa.
The irony is that many clubs that sit outside of the elite group (City also do), is that the Cartel, after Chelsea came along, never wanted to see another club succeed and break into their control. They want to dominate success on and off the pitch and for it to be theirs and theirs alone.
City have been fighting for the right to be at the top table for all 'other' clubs for a decade and the small minded mentality of the Villa supporting Midlands police and the recent behaviour of the fans of other clubs, outside of the elite clubs towards City this last week, has shown them to be complete and utter fools!
Enjoy supporting teams where they have no chance and never will, spend your hard earned knowing the dream of becoming a Cartel club, no matter how much money your owner has, can never really be achieved (Leicester will definitely be a one off).
Fools the vast majority of you and Talk$hit, your pathetic for ignoring it and failing to raise the profile of it! Scumbags!
Better of saying football supporters your team who have billionaire owners can never never ever never ever do what Man City have done!
Why? Your clubs all like sheep voted for FFP.
MUGGS..
I am Fairly sure that is exactly what I said a few pages back.Take your point but….if the PL are resisting the introduction of an Independent Regulator then this would appear than no more than “brushing things under the carpet” which considering it took them 4 years would not look great and would not appease the hateful 8. If they carry on and find us “guilty” then the question must be how did this happen for so long on your watch PL. Whichever happens the PL is shown up for what it is - negligent, amateurish and incompetent and are therefore fucked whatever the outcome.
Centurions
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By all accounts people acting on behalf of United approached various parties in Qatar (not the other way around) and Liverpool haven't had any serious bidders whatsoever, so I'm not sure it's working out like that.If anything this investigation would encourage potential new owners.
If you’re buying into an industry with a load of rules and regulations, you would want to know those rules are enforced.
M18CTID
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To be fair, Villa didn't vote for FFP!Better of saying football supporters your team who have billionaire owners can never never ever never ever do what Man City have done!
Why? Your clubs all like sheep voted for FFP.
MUGGS..
HelloCity
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If anything this investigation would encourage potential new owners.
If you’re buying into an industry with a load of rules and regulations, you would want to know those rules are enforced.
I bet the people in the middle east love it when they see clubs owned by people like themselves being the whipping boys of club ownership.
City Raider
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The more I read about this, timescales, rushed documents with factual errors etc, the more I believe the Prem have already done what they set out to do, tarnish us and demonstrate a veneer of regulatory control before the white paper. We’re the sacrificial lamb. I doubt they’re too concerned about outcomes at the moment, football will be in a totally different place in the 2 years the process is expected to take.
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I think the problem is that private clubs can make rules that might be a bit strange but are accepted if they don't break the law of the land. So you can't have a private club with a rule saying new members have to kill someone to be a member. I'm not sure a rule stating "Member clubs are not allowed to make the cartel of cry-baby clubs cry" is contrary to the law of the land.
However I doubt the PL would get away with having people linked to the rags, dippers and arse acting as
I have just read a report on the BBC by Kevin Parker which I felt was weak and submissive. I think he owes the fans an explanation as to whether or not he was misrepresented by BBC Sports. Failing this I think he should resign from his position with the Supporteres Club. Surely we could get somebody better to articulate the current feelings and views of the fans.I don't think what he said was that terrible, but he should have the sense to know that a journalist randomly contacting him for comment is just trying to keep the foot on citys throat and drag us through shit. The fact is that this is probably now a none-story for months/years while the inquiry gathers info and we prepare our defence. The media are just bottom feeders desperate to keep this at the top of the page along with stories about how great the rags are.
Have the fact that PL clubs can't join any super league been set in stone, or is that what this Goverment white paper was going to include. The timeline of events this week could their way of stalling that and then having the option of being able to join.
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I bet the people in the middle east love it when they see clubs owned by people like themselves being the whipping boys of club ownership.
Oh yeah I'm sure they're so put off by seeing a club run by people like themselves win 4 of the last 5 titles.
How could they even imagine succeeding...
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It's nothing to do with me, who the OSC appoints as their boss until it does something negative to the whole picture. It's not the first time his words have been twisted (or accurately reported) so maybe someone more media savy would be more appropriate. Or just concentrate on the role.Name rings a bell, is this the fella who demanded an apology off Pep to the fans?
Lord Blue
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put your gadget down and go to sleep thenIt’s 1.30am here. Will have a look tomorrow when I wake up.
lancs blue
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I haven't given a fuck what West Midlands police thought since my first away trip into their patch back in the 70s. More corrupt than the Met back then and that's some fucking bar.. Today they are talking about the Midlands police making Emptyhad comments.
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I’m guessing chambers in the Inns of Court don’t come cheap !Is that his fee or the fee of the chambers he works for? Backup staff and facilities also need to be paid.
HelloCity
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Oh yeah I'm sure they're so put off by seeing a club run by people like themselves win 4 of the last 5 titles.
How could they even imagine succeeding...
Success with relentless persecution and judgement.
I'm sure it would make some think twice whether the investment is worth it.
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Not wishing to detract from the current Narrative but Talk$hit are really going after us this week. Today they are talking about the Midlands police making Emptyhad comments.
I've just stuck this on YouTube as a response, I'm going full banshee mode on the ignorant clubs outside of the Cartel, the sheep can't see what is happening to us affects them too. Fools the lot of them!
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We get you don't like City TalkSport, you have made that narrative very clear.
In this article though you have shown that the cartel of Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal hegemony remains strong and influences the little clubs like Villa.
The irony is that many clubs that sit outside of the elite group (City also do), is that the Cartel, after Chelsea came along, never wanted to see another club succeed and break into their control. They want to dominate success on and off the pitch and for it to be theirs and theirs alone.
City have been fighting for the right to be at the top table for all 'other' clubs for a decade and the small minded mentality of the Villa supporting Midlands police and the recent behaviour of the fans of other clubs, outside of the elite clubs towards City this last week, has shown them to be complete and utter fools!
Enjoy supporting teams where they have no chance and never will, spend your hard earned knowing the dream of becoming a Cartel club, no matter how much money your owner has, can never really be achieved (Leicester will definitely be a one off).
Fools the vast majority of you and Talk$hit, your pathetic for ignoring it and failing to raise the profile of it! Scumbags!
Stuck what on YouTube?
not my fault!
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His text below the dotted line…Stuck what on YouTube?
Blueboy73
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From my own experience, I was always told that processes of this type have to meet the rules of equity and natural justice.It just feels extremely political to me. The writing appears on the wall for the PL in the light of the likely white paper mandating an independent regulator. Either result in this case massively discredits the PL. If they lose then their entire investigation and use of resources was a colossal waste of time. If they win, they have allowed one of their major contributors to get away with financial dishonesty for a decade to the detriment of the entire faith in the competition. I am not one for conspiracy theories, but if this was all a long game invented by City to put to bed the overhanging allegations from CAS, then it could be exceptionally well played.
One of the things that bugs me the most is the fact that the entirety of the proceedings will be under seal. I just can’t decide who that helps the most.
I am Fairly sure however that the PL can only raise allegations of charges and an independent commission is required to find them as fact. Otherwise the PL is prosecution, Judge and jury which is not something that would ever have been agreed when the competition was formulated.
Just my thoughts in any event.
One quote I was taught was similar to the one you have used above in regard that you cannot be judge and jury is that
you cannot be judge, jury and executioner and anything tantamount to this could be challenged - ergo there has to be an impartial appeals process if either party isn't happy.