PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Colin Bells Boots]

Take your point but….if the PL are resisting the introduction of an Independent Regulator then this would appear than no more than “brushing things under the carpet” which considering it took them 4 years would not look great and would not appease the hateful 8. If they carry on and find us “guilty” then the question must be how did this happen for so long on your watch PL. Whichever happens the PL is shown up for what it is - negligent, amateurish and incompetent and are therefore fucked whatever the outcome.

An Independent Regulator is imperative for the sake of any integrity in football, the PL having shown it's clear and obvious failings and bias towards certain teams it is supposed to represent.

Supporters should be pushing for this imo, instead of allowing those in charge of their clubs sucking up to the PL/PiGMOL alliance.

Are fans of other clubs happy to know that the future of their club is determined by the likes of the rags, dippers, gooners who clearly have sold out to the corruption of the PL , and have fuck all intention of ever helping the underlings to become successful to the point of presenting a challenge to their own ambitions.

 

[Yankunian]

Name rings a bell, is this the fella who demanded an apology off Pep to the fans?

yes! thats him

 

[Eccles Blue]

I have just read a report on the BBC by Kevin Parker which I felt was weak and submissive. I think he owes the fans an explanation as to whether or not he was misrepresented by BBC Sports. Failing this I think he should resign from his position with the Supporteres Club. Surely we could get somebody better to articulate the current feelings and views of the fans.

I have just read that and basically it’s wishy, washy and practically damning with faint praise!! I’m sorry Kevin but if you were misquoted I’d get on to the BBC and get it sorted. If you weren’t misquoted then wow just wow. I’d not want you defending me ever! Sorry.

JMHO

 

[blueinsa]

From the BBC, is Kevin Parker really the GS of the supporters club?? If so would he (or any City fan) say that the past achievements would be tainted??

Manchester City finances: Key fan figure on impact of charges on club and supporters

A key member of Manchester City's official supporters' club says he will remain a fan whatever happens next over alleged financial rule breaches.

www.bbc.com

A massive twat who thinks it’s all about him.

He doesn’t speak for me the dick.

 

[D'Silva]

A massive twat who thinks it’s all about him.

He doesn’t speak for me the dick.

They should have placed someone that would put the press in their place instead of a f**kin media sycophant and an expert groveler.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

Was talking to someone this morning and he said something that I hadn't considered before. The deadline for bidders trying to purchase United is next week. The Glazers are trying to sell them to the highest bidder, and they don't care who that is. But all of the highest bidders are from the middle east.

This investigation into ADUG could put off potential middle eastern investors from buying them, so now they are shitting it. Which would probably explain why loads of articles were published yesterday where the value was put out at 5 billion, when 6-7 billion had been the muted price since November.

Liverpool are also in the same predicament, as they are also up for sale. Which makes me sort of wary. Could someone somewhere have enough power to orchestrate all of this, to put off middle eastern investors from buying the PL's crown jewels?

Lets face it. If City, Newcastle, United and Liverpool are all owned by the middle east, the power shifts elsewhere. It puts the PL in danger, because they can collude to form breakaways, attend competitions in the middle east. It means that the PL would be losing a significant amount of power and control of their cash cow.

After the bombshell being dropped, and having now nearly a week to reflect and take everything in...it is very plain to see that there are many games being played out here and that our club is being put centre circle

We have the PL not wanting an independent regulator to run the game - so before the white paper was due to be released they throw the charges (rushed it out) to somehow show that they can in fact regulate on there own. The white paper has now been delayed by 2 weeks - so the question here is why don't the PL want an independent regulator to govern? Are they in fact hiding major wrong doings that have gone at other clubs and been swept under a very big grubby rug

If that is the case then fingers crossed we will bring up past accounts of others that the PL have never held to account

Then we have the supposed takeovers of the rags and dippers...are the PL trying to stop the running by an independent regulator so that these 2 can infact be bought out and signed off by the PL?

I honestly think the PL don't want any independent regulator to takeover because they are afraid they won't be able to no longer protect the cartel clubs and they are also afraid of what may be uncovered and found in the locker

 

[Shads]

If this was the good old US of A then there would be a class action from fans already in the making, emotional distress, defamation of character and why not, loss of sleep :). All queued up ready to go once we are cleared

I am Qualified to bring that case on behalf of any other US based city fans out there. Not sure it would get past the pleadings stage but I’m game…

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

A massive twat who thinks it’s all about him.

He doesn’t speak for me the dick.

I suspect that many on here share your opinions of him, which is no doubt why he was asked by to comment by the BBC - an organisation desperate to stick the knife into City.

An alliance of cunts , one might say ?

 

[KS55]

Challenged but not disproven. Hence why we are here today talking about another hearing.

City do not have to disprove them. It is up to the PL to make their case. At CAS, our legal team were actually shocked when it became apparent that UEFA had nothing more than the emails. UEFA had no witnesses, no documents, nada, zilch, nothing. I wonder what the PL has.

 

[Bellamy's Caddy]

The more I read about this, timescales, rushed documents with factual errors etc, the more I believe the Prem have already done what they set out to do, tarnish us and demonstrate a veneer of regulatory control before the white paper. We’re the sacrificial lamb. I doubt they’re too concerned about outcomes at the moment, football will be in a totally different place in the 2 years the process is expected to take.

I agree and I think @tolmie's hairdoo called it right earlier in this thread. It's a transfer ban in all but name, potential signings (Bellingham?) may well be put off by the charges, potentially current players will be unsettled as well and let's face it, its going to take some effort from Pep and the squad to put this to one side to mount a serious challenge this year. Not to mention the reputational damage and constant media sniping this has brought.

I dont think the punishments will be as severe as the media are enjoying speculating over, but I do think the damage in the short term, will be significant. We will recover from whatever is thrown at us though.

 

[Shirley]

A massive twat who thinks it’s all about him.

He doesn’t speak for me the dick.

I suspect he wants to be the City fans media mouthpiece

 

[ooh vonky vonky]

I have just read that and basically it’s wishy, washy and practically damning with faint praise!! I’m sorry Kevin but if you were misquoted I’d get on to the BBC and get it sorted. If you weren’t misquoted then wow just wow. I’d not want you defending me ever! Sorry.

JMHO

Trust me mate … you wouldn’t want him defending you ever.
He was an an absolute twat when he worked in the ticket office, and has previous when it comes to shitting on those near (and supposedly) dear to him.

 

[Grassland Blue]

Why the rush all of a sudden to get us charged, found guilty and relegated?

Certain PL clubs have already decided we are guilty and want punishment now.

If we win the chumps league but get relegated, would we still be eligible for next seasons' competition on the basis that we are the holders?

 

[M18CTID]

I have just read that and basically it’s wishy, washy and practically damning with faint praise!! I’m sorry Kevin but if you were misquoted I’d get on to the BBC and get it sorted. If you weren’t misquoted then wow just wow. I’d not want you defending me ever! Sorry.

JMHO

I don't think he's said anything that many fans on here haven't said - that he trusts what the club are saying but IF it's proven otherwise then it wouldn't be a good look. The trouble is, it's one thing saying that on here but another saying it to the media because it gives them an opportunity to twist things so I think he's being a little naive there. Back in 2020 when we had the UEFA ruling, in the run-up to the CAS appeal 1894 did a photo shoot at the stadium with the anti-UEFA banner that they originally planned to display at the Real Madrid home game but weren't able to due to the pandemic and lockdown. Sky Sports News came down and interviewed various people about it. Everyone interviewed said they trusted the word of the club but didn't go any further than that. It's best to give them fuck all opportunity to twist things!

 

[PDBLUEMOON]

A massive twat who thinks it’s all about him.

He doesn’t speak for me the dick.

Time for a change within the OSC too!!

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

Wasn't it the rags and dippers who got to vet the next person for the top job at the PL!

 

[KS55]

The PL was not driven by Sky. it was greedy chairman to the highest bidder. We finished above MU and Liverpool in the 2 seasons before it started, and Arsenal and Chelsea were below us in mid-table in the first season. It was a pretty level playing field to start off with. We just went backwards when we needed to push on.

My memory lets me down here, can anybody confirm the following?
There was a time gap between the agreement with Sky by the Sky 4/Sky 5 and the beginning of the premier league. Were we not in div2 when that agreement was signed??

 

[The blue phantom]

I don't think he's said anything that many fans on here haven't said - that he trusts what the club are saying but IF it's proven otherwise then it wouldn't be a good look. The trouble is, it's one thing saying that on here but another saying it to the media because it gives them an opportunity to twist things so I think he's being a little naive there. Back in 2020 when we had the UEFA ruling, in the run-up to the CAS appeal 1894 did a photo shoot at the stadium with the anti-UEFA banner that they originally planned to display at the Real Madrid home game but weren't able to due to the pandemic and lockdown. Sky Sports News came down and interviewed various people about it. Everyone interviewed said they trusted the word of the club but didn't go any further than that. It's best to give them fuck all opportunity to twist things!

I'm not sure there's many on here, If any, who have said our trophies will be tainted if we are found guilty. Something he seems to say willingly.

 

[Shads]

Something that I'd like our legal experts on here to give an opinion on, if they would.
I've understood that in this case there is no court of appeal, as such. There is no CAS. At the worst, City can appeal the decision and then a second commission made up of different members would be constituted by the PL.
Moving on to a whole other ball park, can City in fact bring a civil suit against the PL in the courts for something like defamation of character (it obviously wouldn't be the term used) if they want to up the stakes?
(By the way, I'm not saying I think it would be a good idea. Just wondering if it's possible.)

Certainly possible but ill-advised and not a chance Pannick will allow it.

 

[Bez]

City do not have to disprove them. It is up to the PL to make their case. At CAS, our legal team were actually shocked when it became apparent that UEFA had nothing more than the emails. UEFA had no witnesses, no documents, nada, zilch, nothing. I wonder what the PL has.

Agreed. I wonder what the PL has if anything. As things stand, I think things look positive for City, but just have a small nagging doubt concerning whether they have an ex employee willing to step forward as a witness or some other incriminating documents. That said, the PL will have to prove that City have falsified their accounts for 9 years...I am hoping the PL have bitten off more than they can chew and the charges are their last stand before they get swallowed up by an independent regulator.