PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Fordyboy46]

I just have a feeling that in the coming months we're going to see the headline that reads ' prem league drop charges against Man City '

 

[Centurions]

im not brilliant with tech, but if you had 5 million emails on your data base ,if you typed in the words manchester city in your search tool that would bring up the emails you were looking at, someone has got hold of the guy that hacked all those things and asked him to search for our emails, hes been put up to it, and it wouldn't surprise me if he got paid to do it, be nice in his trial if it came out

It may be just me misreading your post but we had 5.5million emails & documents stolen from our server(s), he (or surely more likely, they) hacked multitudes of people and companies so had a LOT more stolen data.

The people he passed at least some of that little lot on to use specialised (expensive) software to search for email chains for instance and any related documents or attachments. It's not just a case of typing in 'Manchester City'.

 

[Dave S]

Now reads: "That was eventually overturned by the court of arbitration in sport (CAS) due to the failure of UEFA to establish such serious allegations with some matters being deemed to be outside UEFA's time barring period."

Aside from the recording and it's content I have to say that voice recognition is used as ultimate confirmation of a person's logon by one of the High Street Banks. Not sure if it is Natwest or Halifax.

There is also an interesting argument that as the der spiegel leaks were on Dec 2016 and more in Nov 18. When the specific emails they seek to rely on came out is hugely important. If they came out in the Dec 2016 release the PL only had until Dec 2022 to file the charges and are therefore out of time.
I think a strong argument can also be made that if there is no legitimate further relevant documentation than the accounts (ie we show once again that the leaked emails are doctored and irrelevant) then the trigger date is the filing of those accounts.

There's been a few of the usual suspects (Tanja(sp), Delaney et al) who have been lauding him for being a whistle-blower, I wonder if they'll just pretend it never happened or if they'll backtrack?

The Media backtrack? If they started doing that they’re morning paper would consist of nothing but backtracks.

 

[Centurions]

I don’t listen to him, like I said I did a long time ago and got linked the video myself.

Which you then listened to, just delete or ignore the link and spare yourself the waste of time.

 

[117 M34]

I just have a feeling that in the coming months we're going to see the headline that reads ' prem league drop charges against Man City '

I originally thought it would take at least 2 years but now thinking it will all be resolved before next season starts.

 

[Centurions]

I originally thought it would take at least 2 years but now thinking it will all be resolved before next season starts.

I keep bouncing from one scenario to the other, I suppose it's going to come down to whether we're happy with the decision or not. If not then sit back and relax because it's going to be a long wait.

 

[bobmcfc]

.

I can imagine the convo went as follows

"Make sure you can fuck city over with any decision we can because we have orders from the premier League"

 

[Iassel]

I suspect there may be a difference between what the club’s execs would like and the legal advice. Advice will prevail.

Respectfully, unless they’re complete idiots - and they’re not - there is no way the clubs executives want to be diving deeply into details.

As said several times, City would snap your cock off right now for a huge non-cooperation fine and ‘unproven’ on the key charges.

 

[There is a Light]

Look how giddy the plastic dipper is. It’s actually a balanced video, although not once did any of them suggest we may be innocent.

Fucking hell, what video where you watching mate

 

[nmc]

I just have a feeling that in the coming months we're going to see the headline that reads ' prem league drop charges against Man City '

I’m sure it’ll be spun as City ruining justice… the EPL just simply can’t compete with City’s lavish spending…..

 

[Bluearmy]

the premier league has nothing to lose , they think we are guilty,when we are acquitted that's the end of it(until the next one),we wont sue ,because is there anything to sue for

Defamation surely…

 

[WestGorton]

I've lost interest to be honest. It is already chip paper for a while.

 

[Eoiyflem]

If anyone like me is thinking of watching in the hope that Craig ends up crying by the end of it he doesn't unfortunately, though he looks like he is coming close at times. The outrage is beautiful but I agree with previous poster, stop sharing and giving them a pay day

He's a fucking mutant and gives those of us from the emerald Isle a bad name. People who don't get football might think we all like that slob.

Even Liverpool fans are giving him pelters for being a bell end, when dippers turn on their own it must meant they are complete and utter pond life

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

@M18CTID - appreciate your comments (and the character verification!).

When I was told this yesterday, I reacted in the way most on here have. A mixture of disbelief and laughter if I'm honest. After 40 years of supporting City and hearing every conceivable terrace conspiracy theory known to man, it was going to be filed with the rest, but when it became obvious that the guy I was talking to was deadly serious and there was more to this than a simple conspiracy theory, I started to take an interest. He mentioned a couple of names who could "verify" his claims, one of whom I spoke to and I was told exactly the same thing. I'm also aware that a reasonably well known City twitter account has the same information. I'm not some wet behind the ears snotty-nosed kid, I'm what is commonly known on these pages as an FOC. A typical Mancunian cynic in all things in life, don't seek the limelight and I'm generally apathetic to stuff like this. However, in MY opinion, there is substance to this and anyone who thinks it isn't possible that such a conversation took place (and was recorded) is living in the dark ages.

Anyway, I just want to clarify a couple of things:

There's a very big difference between blackmail and leverage.
The recording wasn't obtained by surreptitious means in any way linked to the Club, whether that be by Middle Eastern special forces, Chinese weather balloons or MI5. It has been handed to the club by a third party.
The intervening "voice" on the recording was not part of the matchday on field team, not a member of the VAR team and not the matchday commander.
The on field referee received an instruction from the intervening voice, who allegedly used the phrase "levelling up".
The "dossier" I mentioned in my original email is my take on things, I have not suggested that the club has one, I'm simply expressing my opinion, although I'd be amazed if they didn't have one.
The club who have distanced themselves from the Nasty 9 is Burnley.

By posting what I did yesterday, I knew I was potentially setting myself up to be a laughing stock, accused of being a raving lunatic, a complete & utter fantasist. My PM's cover all those bases, trust me. Each to their own, I've got broad shoulders. But ask yourself this...why would a perfectly normal, regular Joe City fan, put himself through the ringer like this, if he wasn't confident in the information he was given?

Yes, it could be bullshit, but then again, it could very well be true. There's many, many scandals over the years that were scarcely believable at the time. Scandals that would never have seen the light of day but for the meanderings of some FOC on a faceless platform.

Is football in this country as squeaky clean as they'd have you believe? Yeah....right, sure it is.

The truth will out.

Up the fucking Blues.

I'm honestly not surprised one way or the other but if it does exist.. we cannot try to make a deal with the devil here. It will BACKFIRE majorly.

If the thing is real.. go to the relevant authorities now and report it up the legal channels or use it to build a case and file it in COURT now.. with FULL TRANSPARENCY.

Because last thing you want is if the PL came out with.. oh look at what City tried to do.. they tried to blackmail us?

They actually start looking righteous again and we would definitely look like keystone cops making backdoor deals and failing with the benny hill music.

 

[jaiguruKun]

What's bugging me is the fact they have charged us for every season up to 2018. This must mean they have a lot more evidence which hasn't yet been seen as the Der Spiegel emails were from much earlier. There must surely be specific evidence to show that the alleged fraud continued for every season up to and including 2018, otherwise the charges would be totally frivolous. It's agonising not knowing and I don't see how we can be expected to put up with this for years without any concrete information from either the PL or City.

 

[jaiguruKun]

I'm honestly not surprised one way or the other if it exists but if it does exist.. we cannot try to make a deal with the devil here. It will BACKFIRE majorly.

If the thing is real.. go to the relevant authorities now and report it up the legal channels or use it to build a case and file it in COURT now.. with FULL TRANSPARENCY.

Because last thing you want is if the PL came out with.. oh look at what City tried to do.. they tried to blackmail us?

They actually start looking righteous again and we would definitely look like keystone cops making backdoor deals and failing with the benny hill music.

The theory is utter horseshit on so many levels and it's time we stopped posting about it.

 

[dublinblue12]

He's a fucking mutant and gives those of us from the emerald Isle a bad name. People who don't get football might think we all like that slob.

Even Liverpool fans are giving him pelters for being a bell end, when dippers turn on their own it must meant they are complete and utter pond life

Every dipper I know who is aware of him has either described him as a fat virgin or an embarrassment tbf

 

[train man]

Very brave from Dodge to put his reputation on the line.

To bring this intriguing scenario to our attention, yes, but it's not his own rep on the line, imo.
Like an old gambling mate of mine used to say, I may have heard a strong whisper about this horse but that won't necessarily make it win..!!

 

[Silva2021]

I am skeptical on what Dodge has said, nothing against him but it would be such a small group at City who would know about it and would be reliable not to have loose lips.

The idea we are using some leverage to get off the charges and also talking about it, no chance in my eyes.

The idea that we would also use it as leverage is not great. Would mean in my eyes we were guilty, if that was our plan.

The more I think about it, the more it’s a no from me.

However, I have no doubt the information has been passed on in good faith.

The irony is more if it is true then don’t put it on a public forum, doubt that helps the club if they wanted to use it as leverage.

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

What's bugging me is the fact they have charged us for every season up to 2018. This must mean they have a lot more evidence which hasn't yet been seen as the Der Spiegel emails were from much earlier. There must surely be specific evidence to show that the alleged fraud continued for every season up to and including 2018, otherwise the charges would be totally frivolous. It's agonising not knowing and I don't see how we can be expected to put up with this for years without any concrete information from either the PL or City.

sawed off shotgun vs sniper rifle.