PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[petrusha]

What I find much more interesting than issues surrounding refereeing conspiracies is that City have already IMO flagged that part of the defence is going to be that the PL has been biased in its conduct of its investigation without bias. Remember this from MCFC's statement on the day the club was charged (the emphasis is mine):

The Club welcomes the review of this matter by an independent Commission, to impartially consider the comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence that exists in support of its position.

The implication there seems clear and obvious if I can borrow a phrase that Khaldoon has shown a fondness for in the past.

This will, I suspect, feature allegations on our part that, among other things: the management of the PL runs that organisation with undue deference to the wishes and interests of a small cabal of self-interested clubs; those running the investigation have been subject to unacceptable pressure by some of those clubs; and, accordingly, the PL has pushed through changes of its rules with a view to deliberately targeting ourselves (and Newcastle United).

I guess we'll never know what evidence we have to this effect, but I think back to Khaldoon's comments about our rivals and how we know when they brief against us. Perhaps, then, it's more than is currently in the public domain. This seems a more productive route to focus on, as it's relevant to the outcome of the case, and could potentially be of interest in the context of the much-discussed Government White Paper on the regulation of the competition.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Wonder how long it will take for FFP rules, relating to owner/ related party investment to change.

The PL may be pliable.

I would think that UEFA may be a harder nut to crack as there are a lot who will not want FFP easing further, and English clubs in UEFA comps will still need to meet both.

 

[Centurions]

What I read from the Dodge post on it, if am right? He has been told about these Audio files, what’s on them but don’t have them. So in effect it’s hear say even though I believe Dodge..

Hear, hear, you can say that again ;)

 

[Centurions]

I have to say the whole recording that City may have is not directly relevant to our situation with the charges as far as I can see it. If it’s true the Premier League will have some serious questions to answer. However we are facing some serious charges from the league and I think the recording is a sideshow that’s unlikely to result in any charges being dropped without infinity more question being asked of the Premier League.

I think you're getting the PL and Pigmol mixed up bud, admittedly you wouldn't be the first on here to do that.

 

[jim tolmies perm]

What I find much more interesting than issues surrounding refereeing conspiracies is that City have already IMO flagged that part of the defence is going to be that the PL has been biased in its conduct of its investigation without bias. Remember this from MCFC's statement on the day the club was charged (the emphasis is mine):



The implication there seems clear and obvious if I can borrow a phrase that Khaldoon has shown a fondness for in the past.

This will, I suspect, feature allegations on our part that, among other things: the management of the PL runs that organisation with undue deference to the wishes and interests of a small cabal of self-interested clubs; those running the investigation have been subject to unacceptable pressure by some of those clubs; and, accordingly, the PL has pushed through changes of its rules with a view to deliberately targeting ourselves (and Newcastle United).

I guess we'll never know what evidence we have to this effect, but I think back to Khaldoon's comments about our rivals and how we know when they brief against us. Perhaps, then, it's more than is currently in the public domain. This seems a more productive route to focus on, as it's relevant to the outcome of the case, and could potentially be of interest in the context of the much-discussed Government White Paper on the regulation of the competition.

Well if that bias was proven surely it would then be inextricably linked to the possible interference with matters concerning PIGMOL would you not think?

 

[dario2739]

Going off on a slight tangent, but related topic - interesting article in the Guardian (I won't link to it), but it's basically about how social media is being manipulated by organisations for hire – I'm positive rival teams have been using this to smear us... I've reported shit loads of bots replying to City related tweets in the past week or so...

 

[Centurions]

Going off on a slight tangent, but related topic - interesting article in the Guardian (I won't link to it), but it's basically about how social media is being manipulated by organisations for hire – I'm positive rival teams have been using this to smear us... I've reported shit loads of bots replying to City related tweets in the past week or so...View attachment 69788

Given that Barcelona were exposed for doing this with their own players I'd think you'd have to be extraordinarily naïve to believe it doesn't play it's part.

Do you have any evidence saved of these bots you've reported?

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I think you're getting the PL and Pigmol mixed up bud, admittedly you wouldn't be the first on here to do that.

The PiGMOL are in part funded by the PL (plus EFL and FA) so they are inextricably linked

 

[Centurions]

The PiGMOL are in part funded by the PL (plus EFL and FA) so they are inextricably linked

And the PL are partly funded by us, are we responsible too?

 

[LongsightM13]

Of course, but a story will always come out. Certainly one that nobody would dare ignore.

tbf you didn’t get many takers for the cult holding a celebratory parade on the anniversary of Heysel iirc!
The hacking of our database also got minimal coverage considering the seriousness

 

[nmc]

He can't share any more because it's not real.

Opinion presented as fact…..

 

[halfcenturyup]

And the PL are partly funded by us, are we responsible too?

You will be telling us the independent panel that reviews PGMOL performance is really independent, next.

 

[LongsightM13]

Going off on a slight tangent, but related topic - interesting article in the Guardian (I won't link to it), but it's basically about how social media is being manipulated by organisations for hire – I'm positive rival teams have been using this to smear us... I've reported shit loads of bots replying to City related tweets in the past week or so...View attachment 69788

Pretty sure there was some speculation that both the cult and Qatari interests were possibly involved in some bot campaigns against us a while back?

 

[domalino]

Of course, but a story will always come out. Certainly one that nobody would dare ignore.

The idea that any journalist or editor would overlook proof of corruption in the Premier League - the biggest sport story in this country in 20 years - because the victim of said corruption was Manchester City is one of the many completely unbeleiveable aspects of this story.

Another one might be why a concerned citizen turned whistleblower would send said "proof" to Manchester City, and not make a dozen copies and send it to every major news desk in the country.

 

[argyle]

Opinion presented as fact…..

Think its fair to say that the supposed VAR recording doesn't exist.

Emotions are high and trolls will take advantage of people who desperately want City to fight back and 'bring it all down.'

People need to accept the legal procedure will take a couple or so years and City will fight the charges as best as they can. I have every faith in the club defending themselves well and being cleared of the main allegations - but it will take a while.

Anything else of exposing widespread corruption and bringing pgmol and the pl down is purely fan fiction.

 

[nmc]

Think its fair to say that the supposed VAR recording doesn't exist.

Emotions are high and trolls will take advantage of people who desperately want City to fight back and 'bring it all down.'

People need to accept the legal procedure will take a couple or so years and City will fight the charges as best as they can. I have every faith in the club defending themselves well and being cleared of the main allegations - but it will take a while.

Anything else of exposing widespread corruption and bringing pgmol and the pl down is purely fan fiction.

That’s fair but no one has definite proof. If someone had come on here and exposed Watergate for what it was at the outset after the initial break in, they’d have been shot down by the usual forum fascists. Whatever is going on there seems to be a real change in tone from the PL - they have gone quiet there’s neither a whisper or a leak - almost like the big announcement to discredit us was the front and centre part of their strategy.

 

[stonerblue]

Going off on a slight tangent, but related topic - interesting article in the Guardian (I won't link to it), but it's basically about how social media is being manipulated by organisations for hire – I'm positive rival teams have been using this to smear us... I've reported shit loads of bots replying to City related tweets in the past week or so...View attachment 69788

Pegasus..

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Mubadala managed investments worth a combined total of £200 billion last year; their vice chairman is Sheikh Mansour and Khaldoon is managing director and group CEO.
Just to be clear, the PL are actually accusing these people of fraud and false accounting over a period of 10 years? It’s frankly laughable..

 

[argyle]

That’s fair but no one has definite proof. If someone had come on here and exposed Watergate for what it was at the outset after the initial break in, they’d have been shot down by the usual forum fascists. Whatever is going on there seems to be a real change in tone from the PL - they have gone quiet there’s neither a whisper or a leak - almost like the big announcement to discredit us was the front and centre part of their strategy.

Its on the person who wrote such an allegation to proove that the allegation is true. A fairly respected journalist by City offered to investigate and that person decided to expose DM's of the journalist attempting to help - because he seems against all 'the media.'

So it is my opinion, but one fair to say, that its conspiratorial nonsense. Though im sure he gave it in good faith I think the information is duff and one to have a laugh at blues expense.

I think the lack of new stories on the charges is because there isn't really anything new to say. Large parts of the media went all in and dumped every angle possible in 2 weeks. Plus they've moved on to the next news story which is Qatar buying utd.

 

[domalino]

That’s fair but no one has definite proof. If someone had come on here and exposed Watergate for what it was at the outset after the initial break in, they’d have been shot down by the usual forum fascists. Whatever is going on there seems to be a real change in tone from the PL - they have gone quiet there’s neither a whisper or a leak - almost like the big announcement to discredit us was the front and centre part of their strategy.

No one has exposed anything. Exposing something would mean evidence of something at least, if not proof.

We've seen half a rumour and a refusal to expand on it at all, which makes it a conspiracy theory.

It's not Watergate, it's chemtrails, illuminati, Elvis is still alive type stuff.