PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[LongsightM13]

I know for a fact that a well-known journalist at one of the so-called 'quality' papers was handed a dossier showing incontrovertible evidence of corruption at PGMOL and wouldn't publish it.

They've all got their snouts in the trough and if you upset the apple cart the trough runs dry.

The cult being caught red handed hacking us got little or no coverage. Though as I’ve said before, that may have also suited us at the time

 

[City Raider]

I’d still be wary of an independent regulator. You can establish all the governance you want, it is only as good as the people holding the posts and there will be attempts to get at them. There is just too much at stake for a lot of rich, powerful people.

 

[LongsightM13]

Nothing to do with not liking City. It was around 10 years ago for a start so well before the Pep era. I think it was just before we won the first PL title in 2012.

Maybe he was warned off, as most journalists were by Abramovich. Don't forget that the FA/PL successfully hushed up criminal behaviour by Liverpool, over the illegal access to our data.

Ronay admitted this on Twitter when asked why he never went after Chelsea like he did City. ‘Why do you think?’ was his response. Coward and hypocrite, albeit emboldened by City’s cuckold passivity

 

[LongsightM13]

 

[LongsightM13]

Remember this was the same ‘bought and paid’ for shill who wrote a book and endless Guardian articles when he was at best ambivalent about Putin and positively gushing about Russia’s world cup
And, of course, the dog whistle racist who described Arab owners as ‘a row of grinning beards’ in an article that remains on the Guardian website to this day
So we have a hypocrite, a coward and a racist. Staggering that anyone takes this throbbing, pus filled boil on the inner rectum of humanity in any way seriously

 

[dario2739]

I don't know many who believe there is a huge conspiracy by all referees against City. This is an issue which affects lots of clubs and is probably driven by betting markets. I don't believe for one minute that everyone at PGMOL is corrupt but I am certain there have been individual instances of corruption. What Mark Halsey has said publically confirms that. Corruption exists in most facets of life in this country (and probably everywhere else). Where there is big money there is usually wrongdoing. Why should football be any different?

I don't think referees are against City, however I do think they're being manipulated to give the correct result (where possible) for certain other teams... Scudamore's veil slipped years ago when he said the PL needed a strong United side!
Fact is, United and Liverpool... probably Arsenal too, being good and competing at the top level is good for the PL's finances... so they instruct the refs to favour them, the media to fawn over them... but the stupid thing is, if they'd built us up... given us our proper credit, they could have nurtured another cash-cow to add to the already bloated ones they covet!

 

[LongsightM13]

I don't think referees are against City, however I do think they're being manipulated to give the correct result (where possible) for certain other teams... Scudamore's veil slipped years ago when he said the PL needed a strong United side!
Fact is, United and Liverpool... probably Arsenal too, being good and competing at the top level is good for the PL's finances... so they instruct the refs to favour them, the media to fawn over them... but the stupid thing is, if they'd built us up... given us our proper credit, they could have nurtured another cash-cow to add to the already bloated ones they covet!

I think they at least subconsciously buy into the whole money narrative and underdog crowds. Saturday a perfect example.
No absolute shockers but definite in-game microagressions and marginal decisions against us every time. He couldn’t wait to blow up for full time despite them wasting half the alloted four minutes
We have to be sufficiently ruthless to make the officials irrelevant and we haven’t done that often enough this season

 

[manimanc]

I don't think referees are against City, however I do think they're being manipulated to give the correct result (where possible) for certain other teams... Scudamore's veil slipped years ago when he said the PL needed a strong United side!
Fact is, United and Liverpool... probably Arsenal too, being good and competing at the top level is good for the PL's finances... so they instruct the refs to favour them, the media to fawn over them... but the stupid thing is, if they'd built us up... given us our proper credit, they could have nurtured another cash-cow to add to the already bloated ones they covet!

You read the stats with rags games, in a lot of them the ref will book the other teams defenders early, almost putting them on the back foot early on.
Graham Poll said something in his book along the lines of he used to get an email telling him how to ref the match at the rags in favour of them as they didn't want to upset taggart.

I'm 99.9% sure he mentions it in his book, will have to look for a link for it.

Edit..
Found this.

How Ex-Ref Poll Lifted Lid on Myth of Man U “Dominance” – by Rob Atkinson

As a Leeds United fan, the twenty year period between the start of the Premier League era and the departure from Man U of Alex Ferguson was for me a two-decades long spell of misery and disillusion…

roblufc.org

 

[RayCTID]

I think they at least subconsciously buy into the whole money narrative and underdog crowds. Saturday a perfect example.
No absolute shockers but definite in-game microagressions and marginal decisions against us every time. He couldn’t wait to blow up for full time despite them wasting half the alloted four minutes
We have to be sufficiently ruthless to make the officials irrelevant and we haven’t done that often enough this season

Worrall should have been sent off in the first half, but I am not blaming the ref for the dropped points

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

I think our defence to the charges brought by PL must be to prove that these charges are as was once said, "completely untrue". No defence can possibly be based on an argument that we were pushed into breaking the law (of the land, made by a sovereign Parliament) because we are charged by a corrupt PL. Our "irrefutable evidence" will certainly be irrefutable if it shows us to be innocent. If the club wishes to/can go on to claim that the charges are part of a "bigger picture" which shows that these charges are part of a bigger picture which is of a PL and other bodies which have abdicated their roles as regulatory bodies to act in the interests of interested parties then that would help cleanse the game of much that is wrong. But, the club must have weighty evidence to back up these claims. And it would be no use, for instance, introducing an "independent" regulator if this was just a vehicle for Stretford or Merseyside key board fans.

This is kinda where my hopes and expectations lie.
I trust the club. I think winning is a mammoth task, not that I believe we are guilty, but without getting this into a court of law, the balance of probabilities is to low a bar for the PL to have to prove.

I do want our management to have definitive proof that puts this to bed for good and the only way I can think of is, that in doing so, whatever we have up our sleeve genuinely puts the PL’s regulation of the game in question. In effect forcing a change in either regulation or the governance of same.

 

[manimanc]

Strange how not even one syllable has been said about the ongoing saga between us and premier league, nothing, nada, nish.
It's watertight. And so it should be.

Usually something gets out but not one of the sour **** twitter journalists have got a sniff.

They aren't even making anything up, not a peep.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

I know for a fact that a well-known journalist at one of the so-called 'quality' papers was handed a dossier showing incontrovertible evidence of corruption at PGMOL and wouldn't publish it.

They've all got their snouts in the trough and if you upset the apple cart the trough runs dry.

That’s more of an accusation than Dodge’s revelation.
Do tell.

 

[LongsightM13]

Worrall should have been sent off in the first half, but I am not blaming the ref for the dropped points

It was at the far end from where we were stood so will take your word for it.
I can’t really remember a potential red card incident but then I was standing next to a merry small claims solicitor

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Nothing to do with not liking City. It was around 10 years ago for a start so well before the Pep era. I think it was just before we won the first PL title in 2012.

Maybe he was warned off, as most journalists were by Abramovich. Don't forget that the FA/PL successfully hushed up criminal behaviour by Liverpool, over the illegal access to our data.

I thought the Liverpool hacking was later. Not related obviously?

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Strange how not even one syllable has been said about the ongoing saga between us and premier league, nothing, nada, nish.
It's watertight. And so it should be.

Usually something gets out but not one of the sour **** twitter journalists have got a sniff.

They aren't even making anything up, not a peep.

Fear perhaps?

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

So why not give it to foreign newspapers to break the story? it would be huge global news surely.

Der Spiegel might take it.

 

[chaddblue]

If we released this recording, if it exists, they’d turn it round to form the basis of yet another charge against us and every other despicable club would get right behind it

 

[Kippax77]

Can we not play it (if it does exist) as the players come onto the pitch at home games instead of that noisy version of Blue Moon.
It might gee them up a tad more

 

[Cassandra]

You read the stats with rags games, in a lot of them the ref will book the other teams defenders early, almost putting them on the back foot early on.
Graham Poll said something in his book along the lines of he used to get an email telling him how to ref the match at the rags in favour of them as they didn't want to upset taggart.

I'm 99.9% sure he mentions it in his book, will have to look for a link for it.

Edit..
Found this.

How Ex-Ref Poll Lifted Lid on Myth of Man U “Dominance” – by Rob Atkinson

As a Leeds United fan, the twenty year period between the start of the Premier League era and the departure from Man U of Alex Ferguson was for me a two-decades long spell of misery and disillusion…

roblufc.org

Remember a game refereed by Poll at Maine Road which was both diabolical and very clever at the same time. It was towards the end of the season City were just safe from relegation and Arsenal were pushing for a European spot. The difference in quality between the teams was such that it didn't need any help from the referee for Arsenal to win. However, for the early part of the first half 2 or 3 City players were booked for something and nothing. Arsenal were given soft free kicks when they lost the ball in attacking positions; City were given free kicks when they had retained the ball and were breaking from defensive positions. With about 15 minutes to go with the match won for Arsenal 2 or 3 Arsenal players were booked to even up the statistics.
No major controversial decisions but lots of little thing given against City.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

From a BBC story of the financial distress in the EFL:

"The dependence on owner funding is bad. Craig Hemmings (son of long-time Preston owner Trevor who died in 2021) wrote to supporters on behalf of the Preston ownership.

"Preston are a really well-run, sensible club. They are not chasing the dream and not over-spending. But he pointed out their annual budget is £24m and. of that, the Hemmings family provide £12m every year. Who replaces the Hemmings family? Who comes to Preston and says 'starting point £12m-a-year'.

-/-/-

I guess FFP is only for clubs trying to gate crash the Euro Cartel Association and I’m sure if we ever play Preston, they will be ignorant of the FACT that they only exist because of a Sugar Daddy…something that has a long and illustrious history amongst almost every club in Britain, not just the big clubs who NOW believe their growth over the last century has been wholly “organic!”