Jude Bellingham

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Lets get some perspective here......the 'kid' is being talked about like a seasoned pro,when the reality is most his age aren't even playing mens football.....let alone at International level.

You have to recognise that fact and take his youthfulness into consideration,because its reality and its unfair to judge him otherwise.

Yes,the fee will be astronomical.....but i dont see any other player,of his age,ability,and standing,anywhere near his level.
 
I like Bellingham he's a quality player, he's still young so he can improve, but we really should be looking at Dominik szoboszlai he's getting better and better at Leipzig.
 
HelloCity said:
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Straight for the negative slant.
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Brilliant article from Sam Lee going in-depth about how Jude might not be a good fit if we are trying to replace gundo and Bernardo with him. Jude is a disruptive attacking midfielder and not a good fit to play as a no.8, we will lose a lot of our good play in midfield and he will be a downgrade if we go this way. But of course he is young and can be molded if we accept to sacrifice a couple of trophies to allow his transition and be patient to reap the long term reward. else we can also get ready-made gundo or bernardo replacement from the market for half the bellingham price.
 
Agueroooo9320 said:
Brilliant article from Sam Lee going in-depth about how Jude might not be a good fit if we are trying to replace gundo and Bernardo with him. Jude is a disruptive attacking midfielder and not a good fit to play as a no.8, we will lose a lot of our good play in midfield and he will be a downgrade if we go this way. But of course he is young and can be molded if we accept to sacrifice a couple of trophies to allow his transition and be patient to reap the long term reward. else we can also get ready-made gundo or bernardo replacement from the market for half the bellingham price.
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The exact same negative slant I’m talking about. We’re the only side in world football where such questions get asked when we’re linked to world footballing superstars, whether it be Messi, Haaland or Bellingham.

We never replaced Yaya, we just had different players capable of doing different things. Jude will come in and evolve the side further. It’s like for like that makes things stale and makes you more predictable as a football team. The exact same elements that are partly impacting Liverpool this season.

This talk about worrying about settling in because he’s different is just bollocks. All evidence point to most players taking time to settle in and not just those who aren’t a direct fit for a current system. We didn’t see the best of Bernardo for a year.

There isn’t a midfielder in the world more suited to the next stage of our evolution than this lad and his link up with Haaland is going to be fantastic to watch. If he comes then he’ll be in our midfield for a decade.
 
HelloCity said:
The exact same negative slant I’m talking about. We’re the only side in world football where such questions get asked when we’re linked to world footballing superstars, whether it be Messi, Haaland or Bellingham.

We never replaced Yaya, we just had different players capable of doing different things. Jude will come in and evolve the side further. It’s like for like that makes things stale and makes you more predictable as a football team. The exact same elements that are partly impacting Liverpool this season.

This talk about worrying about settling in because he’s different is just bollocks. All evidence point to most players taking time to settle in and not just those who aren’t a direct fit for a current system. We didn’t see the best of Bernardo for a year.

There isn’t a midfielder in the world more suited to the next stage of our evolution than this lad and his link up with Haaland is going to be fantastic to watch. If he comes then he’ll be in our midfield for a decade.
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Agree with all of this. Hes technically excellent and a very strong runner with the ball, much like we’ve seen kev do. Might take a little while to find his feet with us but i see him as a long term successor to kevs role. Hed be perfect playing where kev is now.
 
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Do they all offer the same attributes,and play in a similar position,as Jude? would we get any of the above for less than 100m?

He is also younger than most of those names.
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The first 4 names are slightly more offensive, but all those players would be far more suited to Pep football in my opinion. Gavi might be available on a free transfer, while most of these names would be in the 70-100m range, well below Bellinghams price tag
 
Delphinho said:
The first 4 names are slightly more offensive, but all those players would be far more suited to Pep football in my opinion. Gavi might be available on a free transfer, while most of these names would be in the 70-100m range, well below Bellinghams price tag
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I think Pep will know what he wants, so if we get Bellingham then it’s because he thinks he’s suited to what he wants.
 
Delphinho said:
The first 4 names are slightly more offensive, but all those players would be far more suited to Pep football in my opinion. Gavi might be available on a free transfer, while most of these names would be in the 70-100m range, well below Bellinghams price tag
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But,its because of the unique package that Bellingham brings that management want him.
He brings an alternative and a presence we lack,so comparing apples with oranges,to try and make a straw man,is silly in this situation.
 
FantasyIreland said:
But,its because of the unique package that Bellingham brings that management want him.
He brings an alternative and a presence we lack,so comparing apples with oranges,to try and make a straw man,is silly in this situation.
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Exactly, plus he is English and given that we have to have home grown players (and may need more rather than less), it makes sense to try and have most of the best English players.

Furthermore, the game changes and Bellingham's attributes may be beneficial to how Pep develops the team.
 
What is unique about Pep, IMO, is his ability to consistently find new ways to play in order to combat the development of opponents. It is clear to me that the slower, possession based game that we have successfully played has now reached a point of familiarity to opponents, who combat it by sitting deeper than ever, shuffling only from side to side and limiting overloads. We have recognised this and have begun to buy more explosive players, especially Haaland and Alvarez, and I suspect we may add Bellingham to that list. It is not that what has gone before is no more, because the game constantly develops, but we now are in a phase of wanting both those who can have their foot on the ball, dictating the tempo of the game, but with an explosive edge that stops opponents nullifying us. I think that these are very exciting times, and we could see Foden, Grealish, Perrone, Bellingham, Veiga and Rodri make up a very exciting, dynamic and young line-up.
 
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Psychedelic Casual said:
This season, I’ve now seen him against:

City at the Etihad, where bar a few decent passes and a headed goal, he was quite poor, especially in the last quarter of the game.
City at Dortmund where he was terrible all game, had 29 touches when Rodri had 142 in a game Dortmund had to win to still give them a chance to win the group, at home.
USA where he was poor
France where he was poor
Chelsea at home where he was poor
Chelsea away where he was terrible
And now Bayern away where he was very poor again and did pretty much fuck all other than get a penalty for diving and moaning at his teammates every time he gave the ball away.

Where all the fuss about this lad has come from, I have no bloody idea whatsoever.
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Him being 19 probably
 
FantasyIreland said:
Lets get some perspective here......the 'kid' is being talked about like a seasoned pro,when the reality is most his age aren't even playing mens football.....let alone at International level.

You have to recognise that fact and take his youthfulness into consideration,because its reality and its unfair to judge him otherwise.

Yes,the fee will be astronomical.....but i dont see any other player,of his age,ability,and standing,anywhere near his level.
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Gavi?
 
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