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North Stand Construction Discussion
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Survey is done, and good questions, the whole of the North Stand should be safe standing, and the family section should be moved to another section of the stadium. Would be interesting to do a poll here of what answers you have for the name of the standDone mate. It's good the club are asking the right people. The questions on that survey are worth discussing on here again.
I personally think the extended 2nd tier has to be safe standing. That instantly will get the right people moving to it. I also think the club should let 1894/other fan groups lead on allocating tickets from the stand so that they go to the right people. Other clubs have done this and it's sort of self-policed. If you're in there and not singing you're out.
The main issue will be pricing. Do they incentivise people? Or do they even need to if the design is right? That's where problems will occur. You can't really give 3,000 tickets or so at a lower price just to get certain people in there. But equally, pricing it as the cheapest part of the ground isn't going to automatically mean it's full of singers.
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Lower tier North stand bud, not the South stand, which sounds like a plan to me.Think they will create a new family section ,but doubt it will be next to the away fans, will need to be somewhere else, which would mean displacing some others somewhere. Think it will be messy whatever we do and upset a few, but also think the club need to bite the bullet and take the flak.
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think that could be the best way to go about it, will make the kids feel part of the atmosphere aswellLower tier North stand bud, not the South stand, which sounds like a plan to me.
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Survey is done, and good questions, the whole of the North Stand should be safe standing, and the family section should be moved to another section of the stadium. Would be interesting to do a poll here of what answers you have for the name of the stand
The problem is where do you move thousands of people? I think it’s easier just to keep north stand level 1 as it as and make kids tickets affordable everywhere in the ground
The kids in there could then gradually move up into the second tier and they will probably be influenced by the noise above
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Make level 1 of South Stand the designated Family stand but offer kids season tickets anywhere at the same price in the ground so people don't feel obliged to be in one stand if they don't want to be. Make all of the North stand the 'noisy end' with safe standing. Move away fans into the corner of east/south, surely this can be done to keep the away fans at that end (near coaches etc) but not giving them a vocal end behind the goal.
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It just feels like an out of date concept to be honest, like a half hearted box ticking exercise. That’s before you start counting all the empty seats over the years, and lack of atmosphere. Far better to have a full stand with one aim, to create an unrivalled atmosphere. Create new family friendly areas in the corners of CB1 & ES1 with ticket packages for season cards & individual matches & build the kids a little indoor pitch to play football, we spend thousands on new bars for adults, give the little uns a bit of something (the fanzone is great btw but it’s not in the stadium) they’ll be close to the action, especially when we have a corner or the players are warning up and they will be itching to join the big boys in the new KippaxJust curious mate, why on earth would you want to 'scrap' the Family Stand?
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Done. The fact that the lower tier is being suggested as one of the options for a singing area worries me though. I have concerns that 1894 are too worried about flags and displays and not what matters: noise and singing.Hi Everyone.
1894 are surveying fans about the North Stand extension.
City contacted us and told us they want the extended North Stand to be an atmospheric 'end' where our singers can congregate. We will most likely work with City (and other fan groups) to try and make this a success.
The survey should take less than 5 minutes to complete.
It's specifically about singing/atmosphere. If you're not too interested in that, please ignore it.
We are using the feedback to help us formulate an official response to City with our suggestions.
Please click here to complete the survey.
Thanks!
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I said the same. I don't think a family stand is needed any more. It's pointless.It just feels like an out of date concept to be honest, feels like a half hearted box ticking exercise. That’s before you start counting all the empty seats over the years, and lack of atmosphere. Far better to have a full stand with one aim, to create an unrivalled atmosphere. Create new family friendly areas in the corners of CB1 & ES1 with ticket packages for season cards & individual matches & build the kids a little indoor pitch to play football, we spend thousands on new bars for adults, give the little uns a bit of something (the fanzone is great btw but it’s not in the stadium) they’ll be close to the action, especially when we have a corner or the players are warning up and they will be itching to join the big boys in the new Kippax
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I'll post some of the info when we've finished taking responses. Some good suggestions so far - my personal favourite is the 'Man Utd Sniff Bash Stand'.Survey is done, and good questions, the whole of the North Stand should be safe standing, and the family section should be moved to another section of the stadium. Would be interesting to do a poll here of what answers you have for the name of the stand
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Just done the survey now it’s great to see the club working with the 1894 group. Let’s hope we can finally have our very own Kippax at the Etihad we have waited long enough for this.
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The survey aims to get a more general view from the wider fanbase, which will shape 1894's stance on the North Stand Expansion.Done. The fact that the lower tier is being suggested as one of the options for a singing area worries me though. I have concerns that 1894 are too worried about flags and displays and not what matters: noise and singing.
Of the dozen or so people who 'run' 1894, it's a mixed bag of opinions. I personally want to focus on SSL2 all the way (near the back to orchestrate the singing); others don't want to be that far away from the pitch, and, as you said, others want to focus more on flags/displays (which naturally are easier in Level 1).
We didn't want to make firm decisions until we had canvassed opinions, and we will genuinely use the results in our decision-making (so all I can say is thank you for having your say, and I'd implore anyone else who has strong views to share theirs).
We also need to consider that City will have their own plans, and there are certain things that we 'need' them to pull through on to make any of this work (for example, if there's rail seating/no hospitality/fair prices etc). Having this data will help us back up our requests to them.
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Yes just reread the post it does say that, I just thought they were saying make the whole 2 tiers standing and move the family stand to the South. Reading again it’s saying the whole second tier standing, so yes the North first tier family could stay where it is in that case.Lower tier North stand bud, not the South stand, which sounds like a plan to me.
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Keep at it mate. Behind you all the way. I appreciate that my views are not the only ones (although they are the correct ones!)The survey aims to get a more general view from the wider fanbase, which will shape 1894's stance on the North Stand Expansion.
Of the dozen or so people who 'run' 1894, it's a mixed bag of opinions. I personally want to focus on SSL2 all the way (near the back to orchestrate the singing); others don't want to be that far away from the pitch, and, as you said, others want to focus more on flags/displays (which naturally are easier in Level 1).
We didn't want to make firm decisions until we had canvassed opinions, and we will genuinely use the results in our decision-making (so all I can say is thank you for having your say, and I'd implore anyone else who has strong views to share theirs).
We also need to consider that City will have their own plans, and there are certain things that we 'need' them to pull through on to make any of this work (for example, if there's rail seating/no hospitality/fair prices etc). Having this data will help us back up our requests to them.
Market it hard as The New Kippax
Singing area upper tier.
1894 right at the back
Discounted tickets and first refusal on season tickets for relocation from the existing singing areas
Job done ;-)
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Done mateHi Everyone.
1894 are surveying fans about the North Stand extension.
City contacted us and told us they want the extended North Stand to be an atmospheric 'end' where our singers can congregate. We will most likely work with City (and other fan groups) to try and make this a success.
The survey should take less than 5 minutes to complete.
It's specifically about singing/atmosphere. If you're not too interested in that, please ignore it.
We are using the feedback to help us formulate an official response to City with our suggestions.
Please click here to complete the survey.
Thanks!
You've got your work cut out with the no hospitality bit unfortunately.The survey aims to get a more general view from the wider fanbase, which will shape 1894's stance on the North Stand Expansion.
Of the dozen or so people who 'run' 1894, it's a mixed bag of opinions. I personally want to focus on SSL2 all the way (near the back to orchestrate the singing); others don't want to be that far away from the pitch, and, as you said, others want to focus more on flags/displays (which naturally are easier in Level 1).
We didn't want to make firm decisions until we had canvassed opinions, and we will genuinely use the results in our decision-making (so all I can say is thank you for having your say, and I'd implore anyone else who has strong views to share theirs).
We also need to consider that City will have their own plans, and there are certain things that we 'need' them to pull through on to make any of this work (for example, if there's rail seating/no hospitality/fair prices etc). Having this data will help us back up our requests to them.
I believe hospitality will move to the back of north stand level 2.Does anybody know if the boxes are staying in the North stand?
I spoke with Danny Vandrewala recently (head of hospitality), who said hospitality levels are being cut for the next few seasons which would suggest the boxes on level two are going during construction.
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True. Most important thing for me is that they don't slap any hospitality right in the middle. In SS2 I think Legends really kills atmosphere as that whole central block is hospitality making it difficult for any singing to spread sideways.You've got your work cut out with the no hospitality bit unfortunately.
If there has to be some hospitality parts in the new NS2, it'd be better keeping it to the sides.