Chelsea Thread - 2022/23 | Pochettino confirmed as new manager

Status
Not open for further replies.
117 M34 said:
I disagree.
He did very well at swansea as well as abroad before joining Brighton.
The 600m players were not his players and was very unbalanced - not his fault.
Brighton have continued to do well since he left but would the current Brighton manager have been able to do well if he wasn't picking up potter's team?
Click to expand...
Kind of think you're both right.

Interesting that at Brighton his team regularly performed badly on expected goals, or in old speak, missed a shit load of chances due to shit strikers.

Then he went to Chelsea and for all the money and top players, they were relying on Sterling and Havertz as finishers.

I still think he's a good manager, but Chelsea was the wrong choice. It would be interesting if he went to Spurs - with Kane and Son, it could really suit him.

De Zerbi has improved them though, and Brighton are really well run.
 
mattcity5 said:
Kind of think you're both right.

Interesting that at Brighton his team regularly performed badly on expected goals, or in old speak, missed a shit load of chances due to shit strikers.

Then he went to Chelsea and for all the money and top players, they were relying on Sterling and Havertz as finishers.

I still think he's a good manager, but Chelsea was the wrong choice. It would be interesting if he went to Spurs - with Kane and Son, it could really suit him.

De Zerbi has improved them though, and Brighton are really well run.
Click to expand...

In hindsight, the ruthless culture at Chelsea was the wrong choice but honestly, looking at the results Potter managed over the last 7 months, most managers at most clubs would have been sacked. Southampton sacked Nathan Jones for a run of results that was better than Chelsea at the time of his sacking. Unless the manager has some kind of kind of bond already established with the club, they usually do not survive the kind of results Potter has produced.

If he had just slightly higher in the table, but still vastly underperforming, like say 6th or 7th I'm pretty sure he would still be in the job. But we're 11th. I don't see how anyone can defend that, despite all of the obstacles he has faced.
 
Vialli98 said:
In hindsight, the ruthless culture at Chelsea was the wrong choice but honestly, looking at the results Potter managed over the last 7 months, most managers at most clubs would have been sacked. Southampton sacked Nathan Jones for a run of results that was better than Chelsea at the time of his sacking. Unless the manager has some kind of kind of bond already established with the club, they usually do not survive the kind of results Potter has produced.

If he had just slightly higher in the table, but still vastly underperforming, like say 6th or 7th I'm pretty sure he would still be in the job. But we're 11th. I don't see how anyone can defend that, despite all of the obstacles he has faced.
Click to expand...

Yeah can't argue with that. I think everyone knew that the main thing holding him back at Brighton though was lack of a clinical striker, yet the one thing he never got at Chelsea was a clinical striker. Odd management, partly by him, partly by the club.
 
blueinsa said:
You where playing Liverpool so obviously an apology was needed afterwards as at least one of them would have been offended by something.
Click to expand...

I would imagine all teams playing them have the statement written before the match, because it's guaranteed to keep going. Maybe they should just release it before kick-off to make a point.
 
Boely will probably hire both Enrique and Nagelsmann. “Luis, you coach these 40 players and Julian, you’re responsible for the other 40”
 
Vialli98 said:
In hindsight, the ruthless culture at Chelsea was the wrong choice but honestly, looking at the results Potter managed over the last 7 months, most managers at most clubs would have been sacked. Southampton sacked Nathan Jones for a run of results that was better than Chelsea at the time of his sacking. Unless the manager has some kind of kind of bond already established with the club, they usually do not survive the kind of results Potter has produced.

If he had just slightly higher in the table, but still vastly underperforming, like say 6th or 7th I'm pretty sure he would still be in the job. But we're 11th. I don't see how anyone can defend that, despite all of the obstacles he has faced.
Click to expand...

Played 29 games, lost 10 isn't good, of course. But if two of those had been wins, you would have been 7th, so basically he was sacked for the results of two games out of 29. Seems to me Boehly has panicked at the thought of missing out on CL football and all that entails and, in doing so, has just highlighted the craziness of his recruitment of, firstly, players and, secondly, the manager.

Do you have any confidence that he will appoint a manager this time who can handle such a bloated and dysfunctional squad? Actually, is there one?
 
David El Mago Silva said:
I'd be dissapointed if Enrique goes there as I always thought he'd be the perfect candidate to succeed Guardiola.

Oh well I guess Pep will just have to stay forever now.
Click to expand...
Doesn’t mean he can’t when the time comes. Pep is going nowhere, thank fxck. We have plenty more of this journey together, both parties on Cloud 9.

Which means in the mean time, any potential future suitors that are already around will indeed be taking other jobs, and that’s fine.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Played 29 games, lost 10 isn't good, of course. But if two of those had been wins, you would have been 7th, so basically he was sacked for the results of two games out of 29. Seems to me Boehly has panicked at the thought of missing out on CL football and all that entails and, in doing so, has just highlighted the craziness of his recruitment of, firstly, players and, secondly, the manager.

Do you have any confidence that he will appoint a manager this time who can handle such a bloated and dysfunctional squad? Actually, is there one?
Click to expand...

I think that is oversimplifying it a little too much. You’re right that we’re only a win or two extra from being 7th but that’s crazy in itself that we’re 6 points behind 7th place at this stage of the season. We’re out of both domestics cups at the first hurdle, and we barely put up a fight in one of them.

I do feel Potter was dealt a very tough hand and I feel very sorry for him but ultimately we’re 11th in April with no real sign of any progress.

Matt Law said the decision to sack was ultimately made by the two sporting directors, one of whom is Paul Winstanley who followed Potter from Brighton to Chelsea. They made the recommendation to the owners who acted on that recommendation.

I hope they don’t rush the process this time. The last time Potter was hired 24 hours after Tuchel was sacked and it just Boehly and Eghbali making that decision. This time they put people in place to navigate the hiring process so hopefully it yields a better outcome this time .
 
hammocity said:
Ah, that most overused word of the Facebook generation, “amazing”. No he’s not, he’s a very good footballer but not as good as Rodri in my opinion.
Click to expand...

As usual, you add nothing useful to the conversation. I’ve highlighted the most important bit of your post for you.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Do you
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Vialli98 said:
But we're 11th. I don't see how anyone can defend that, despite all of the obstacles he has faced.
Click to expand...
Do you have any confidence that he will appoint a manager this time who can handle such a bloated and dysfunctional squad? Actually, is there one?
Click to expand...
There isn’t one, and that’s exactly it. No point saying “despite all of the obstacles”, when those obstacles are the defining point of the season and can’t be dismissed or ignored.

No manager on earth could have polished that turd, and that he even made it appear like chocolate mousse every so often is maybe more than most could have done.
 
Vialli98 said:
I think that is oversimplifying it a little too much. You’re right that we’re only a win or two extra from being 7th but that’s crazy in itself that we’re 6 points behind 7th place at this stage of the season. We’re out of both domestics cups at the first hurdle, and we barely put up a fight in one of them.

I do feel Potter was dealt a very tough hand and I feel very sorry for him but ultimately we’re 11th in April with no real sign of any progress.

Matt Law said the decision to sack was ultimately made by the two sporting directors, one of whom is Paul Winstanley who followed Potter from Brighton to Chelsea. They made the recommendation to the owners who acted on that recommendation.

I hope they don’t rush the process this time. The last time Potter was hired 24 hours after Tuchel was sacked and it just Boehly and Eghbali making that decision. This time they put people in place to navigate the hiring process so hopefully it yields a better outcome this time .
Click to expand...
We could lend you Pep.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Unread Posts

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top