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Corky said:
He suggests it should be changed to the bee if you read that far.
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Yes but not demanding or campaigning like people are reacting to.

The mail picked up the story today and the headline was like the badge was going to be banned.
 
Edghill OG said:
Crikey, can't believe how much traction this is getting. I'm sure slavery is the first thing anybody thinks of when they look at our badge?!!! If it is they're clearly a woke, jobsworth snowflake! You can twist most things to suit an agenda if you look and try hard enough.

What next? Ban the Arsenal badge because an individual is upset they discovered somebody died from cannon fire? How about ban the Brighton badge because seagulls keep shitting on my car and I think they're mocking me by having it on their shirt?
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That made me splash the keyboard with some 1664 so deserves more than a like ;-)
But spot on Edghill
 
Edghill OG said:
Crikey, can't believe how much traction this is getting. I'm sure slavery is the first thing anybody thinks of when they look at our badge?!!! If it is they're clearly a woke, jobsworth snowflake! You can twist most things to suit an agenda if you look and try hard enough.

What next? Ban the Arsenal badge because an individual is upset they discovered somebody died from cannon fire? How about ban the Brighton badge because seagulls keep shitting on my car and I think they're mocking me by having it on their shirt?
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Perhaps someone has mentioned it already but didn't the original Chelsea FC badge have a Chelsea pensioner on it? Read it somewhere, and it's always possible that someone was having a bit of fun. But if it did have a pensioner what mileage could you get from that? I expect that it would offend someone retrospectively but I really cannot think how. Of course it could be the other way round: a retro reinstatement of the pensioner on a new Chelsea badge would be A Good Thing, showing the caring side of Chelsea FC.
 
Here is the alternative view. I wouldn’t normally quote The Sun as a reference in a history discussion but this article is actually well written.

Of particular interest is the bit where it states that the ships are thought to derive from the Manchester coat of arms, adopted in 1842, many years after slavery was outlawed in the British empire.

It looks like The Sun did their research whereas the “politcally correct” Guardian failed to do theirs.

www.thesun.co.uk

Man U & City fans revolt over 'crazy' campaign to make clubs ditch their badges

FANS of Manchester United and Manchester City are in revolt over a “crazy” campaign to make them ditch their historic club badges. The crests feature a ship — which Left-wing critics say symbolises…
www.thesun.co.uk www.thesun.co.uk
 
mancityvstoke said:
yeah that "massive" boat all the kids piled on to and went round the lake.

Not a slave in sight and Lincolns statue was there.

"The Barnard statue was sent to Manchester on the strength of the support of local cotton workers for Lincoln, the Union and the abolition of slavery in the American Civil War. "
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Yep the statue was there on the front near Wilmslow Road until the late 70s/early 80s iirc
 
Old Amos said:
Perhaps someone has mentioned it already but didn't the original Chelsea FC badge have a Chelsea pensioner on it? Read it somewhere, and it's always possible that someone was having a bit of fun. But if it did have a pensioner what mileage could you get from that? I expect that it would offend someone retrospectively but I really cannot think how. Of course it could be the other way round: a retro reinstatement of the pensioner on a new Chelsea badge would be A Good Thing, showing the caring side of Chelsea FC.
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So they did, didn't know that. Wouldn't be safe reinstating that mate. It'd be construed as being ageist.

The red rose will be going next as somebody pricked their finger gardening.
 
It's pathetic.
It's a coat of arms for goodness sake.
Removing somthing because of the history associated with it means your society forgets the history!
NOT A GOOD IDEA!
 
Edghill OG said:
How about ban the Brighton badge because seagulls keep shitting on my car and I think they're mocking me by having it on their shirt?
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Last summer I was visiting customers in Bath (the city not the object you fill with water)
On the way back to my car I bought a pasta salad for lunch
Got to the car, put my lunch on the roof, went to the back of the car to put my samples case in the boot and wondered what the noise was
I looked up and a seagull the size of a fucking golden Eagle was eating my dinner
Apart from learning that I shouldn't put my lunch on top of a car in a city centre, I also discovered that seagulls don't like cherry tomatoes as they were just chucked around the roof
 
dickie davies said:
Last summer I was visiting customers in Bath (the city not the object you fill with water)
On the way back to my car I bought a pasta salad for lunch
Got to the car, put my lunch on the roof, went to the back of the car to put my samples case in the boot and wondered what the noise was
I looked up and a seagull the size of a fucking golden Eagle was eating my dinner
Apart from learning that I shouldn't put my lunch on top of a car in a city centre, I also discovered that seagulls don't like cherry tomatoes as they were just chucked around the roof
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I bet when he spat them out he looked just like our old Franny Lee era badge
 
domalino said:
I thought this as well, but it turned out the ship on the Manchester coat of arms (1842) predates the canal by 50 years (opened 1894) which is pretty conclusive.
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The ship to me is just part of the badge, I think people are reading more into it than they should be.
 
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