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[SebastianBlue]

I did want to say that I am quite proud of our support debating the ship article and the implications of its premise, whether you agree or not, whether you think it is a hit- or think-piece.

I am proud because the Dippers across the way wouldn’t even have the historical knowledge, self-awareness, or humility to even read, analyse, and debate it. They would simply scream victimhood, before demanding an apology.

I hope we continue to set ourselves apart from their ludicrous (and in some ways dangerous) revisionist denialism.

 

[LongsightM13]

I did want to say that I am quite proud of our support debating the ship article and the implications of its premise, whether you agree or not, whether you think it is a hit- or think-piece.

I am proud because the Dippers across the way wouldn’t even have the historical knowledge, self-awareness, or humility to even read, analyse, and debate it. They would simply scream victimhood, before demanding an apology.

I hope we continue to set ourselves apart from their ludicrous (and in some ways dangerous) revisionist denialism.

“There were more Confederate flags flying along the Mersey than the Mississippi”
Weirdly they still had links to the confederacy into the 1970s

 

[levets]

I agree with some of your points, but context is needed. I recall the England v Italy Euro’s Final and some muppets saying they were supporting Italy because of England’s colonial past! There have been 49-51 empires down the ages. I’m sure they all did shameful things. The Dutch, Spanish and Portuguese didn’t cover themselves in glory either. Also, looking at my heavily Irish and Norman influenced family tree, not sure I’m buying into the guilt trip. Or should I feel guilty about the Norman Conquest? Trying to apportion blame and guilt from history is utterly pointless. One of the bosses at my company moved to head office in France because his wife who is Russian was getting too much grief about The Ukraine invasion here. It’s not her fault. She didn’t have a hotline into Putin. What lessons are we learning here? If some bloke in Bristol traded slaves in the 1800’s you’ll do well to convince me it’s my fault. I definitely haven’t profited. I’m just a bloke from the North West, dragged up on an Oldham council estate without a pot to piss in. The Asian blokes in the mills I worked in didn’t have a pot to piss in either. I can say the Samosas they gave me were fantastic though. Simple days.
Apologies for the rant and I accept I failed to make a coherent point. I blame pre game drinks.

Which Oldham estate? I also lived on one, up in the hills.

 

[SebastianBlue]

“There were more Confederate flags flying along the Mersey than the Mississippi”
Weirdly they still had links to the confederacy into the 1970s

Nah, you’re lying, that city and club have never done anything untoward.

 

[Bournemouth Blue]

The Guardian are the leftie equivalent of the Fail, pathetic attempt to diss the City and the clubs.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

I did want to say that I am quite proud of our support debating the ship article and the implications of its premise, whether you agree or not, whether you think it is a hit- or think-piece.

I am proud because the Dippers across the way wouldn’t even have the historical knowledge, self-awareness, or humility to even read, analyse, and debate it. They would simply scream victimhood, before demanding an apology.

I hope we continue to set ourselves apart from their ludicrous (and in some ways dangerous) revisionist denialism.

You're not allowed to say vic**m anymore, it's a hate crime.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

“There were more Confederate flags flying along the Mersey than the Mississippi”
Weirdly they still had links to the confederacy into the 1970s

I think it was ‘…in the city of Liverpool than Richmond, Virginia’

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

Which Oldham estate? I also lived on one, up in the hills.

Oozewood.

 

[Bluearmy]

Isnt it because of the ship canal?!

 

[levets]

Oozewood.

That’s posh compared to bottom Sholver ;-)