Dianne Abbott

[Metal Biker]

I said I thought both him and Edmund were. Not sure though, I’d have to google it.

Edmund refused to covert to Norse Paganism so the Vikingr turned him into a pincushion.

Died 200 years before Edward.

 

[mackenzie]

Complex and interesting is fine and different opinions great, it’s the bile and scorn that wears you down all the time.

I agree. It wears me out

 

[bluenova]

I'm a "leftie"....always have been and always will be.
Union activist, with a Grandfather shop steward, who then read "The ragged trousered Philanthropists" years ago. Loved it, and it changed how I looked at things in a profound way.
Yet there's something "different" now, and it saddens me because there seems to be so many divides drawn, and woe betide anyone who crosses.
Yet isn't that what people are really like? Complex, interesting, multi faceted and HUMAN

Social media has really fucked things up.

It was easier thirty, forty, fifty years ago to have a broad church - but now it's much easier to find an echo chamber, and pop yourself in a box that's not big enough for anyone with different views.

 

[meltonblue]

Edmund refused to covert to Norse Paganism so the Vikingr turned him into a pincushion.

Died 200 years before Edward.

Right but I thought they were both patron saints up to George was what I was saying.

 

[mackenzie]

Social media has really fucked things up.

It was easier thirty, forty, fifty years ago to have a broad church - but now it's much easier to find an echo chamber, and pop yourself in a box that's not big enough for anyone with different views.

Couldn't agree more, well said.

 

[Metal Biker]

Right but I thought they were both patron saints up to George was what I was saying.

Ah right. Yeah, they were. Edmund was the OG.

 

[blueinsa]

Social media has really fucked things up.

It was easier thirty, forty, fifty years ago to have a broad church - but now it's much easier to find an echo chamber, and pop yourself in a box that's not big enough for anyone with different views.

Nailed it.

 

[meltonblue]

Social media has really fucked things up.

It was easier thirty, forty, fifty years ago to have a broad church - but now it's much easier to find an echo chamber, and pop yourself in a box that's not big enough for anyone with different views.

Yup. It’s not only on social media either, it’s forced the more traditional media to be more entrenched too. You don’t get the difference in opinion in editorial sections anywhere near as much nowadays.

 

[meltonblue]

Ah right. Yeah, they were. Edmund was the OG.

Cheers, I thought so, I read a really good book a few years ago about Edward. Might have to do Edmund next, don’t know much about him.

 

[blueinsa]

Yup. It’s not only on social media either, it’s forced the more traditional media to be more entrenched too. You don’t get the difference in opinion in editorial sections anywhere near as much nowadays.

I can’t read a newspaper anymore and watching the news on tv is becoming a struggle, such is the bias in show dependant on what it is you are watching.

 

[meltonblue]

I can’t read a newspaper anymore and watching the news on tv is becoming a struggle, such is the bias in show dependant on what it is you are watching.

Ditto. There’s still a few centrist journos out there that haven’t completely lost their minds and separate fact and opinion, it’s increasingly harder to find them though.

 

[Metal Biker]

Cheers, I thought so, I read a really good book a few years ago about Edward. Might have to do Edmund next, don’t know much about him.

There's very little in fairness. An East Anglian King who had his kingdom decimated, but became a symbol of staunch 'Christianity' for his refusal to adopt another faith.

 

[hcblue95]

I can’t read a newspaper anymore and watching the news on tv is becoming a struggle, such is the bias in show dependant on what it is you are watching.

Really? The BBC are pretty good for the most part don't you think?

 

[meltonblue]

Really? The BBC are pretty good for the most part don't you think?

Factually for the most part they’re good but they’ve lost a lot of their best talent the last few years.

 

[Metal Biker]

Really? The BBC are pretty good for the most part don't you think?

The BBC is unique in that they are hated by both the left AND the right.

I just dont want to have to pay for the fucker, is all.

 

[meltonblue]

There's very little in fairness. An East Anglian King who had his kingdom decimated, but became a symbol of staunch 'Christianity' for his refusal to adopt another faith.

There’s definitely a strong argument for him as patron saint still!

 

[blueinsa]

Really? The BBC are pretty good for the most part don't you think?

No I don’t.

Driven into the world of wanting and needing clicks I’m afraid like the rest.

UK news media is in the toilet as far as I am concerned.

 

[Metal Biker]

There’s definitely a strong argument for him as patron saint still!

I dunno why they decided to dump poor St Edmund (hence the post in context) and go with Georgie, but that's history for you!

I mean the guy refused despite having multiple arrows pumped into him whilst tied to a tree. That's badass!

 

[Metal Biker]

No I don’t.

Driven into the world of wanting and needing clicks I’m afraid like the rest.

UK news media is in the toilet as far as I am concerned.

It all is. Sensationalism to get clicks and likes, like you said.

Drive up that interest, tell the people how climate change is killing the planet and that you are responsible, meanwhile here's an advert break with messages from BP, Shell and various car manufacturers flogging their latest model (some electric for balance).

You're the evil ones here, not us!

Oh yeah, Diane Abbott is a twat.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

That's weird, I must have read the title wrong, as I thought this thread was about Diane Abbot??