PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Cityinmud]

Main stream media (MSM) the day after the CL final bud.

Thanks.
They can fuck off . I so want us to win the treble. It will be bloody incredible. I hope the players are more inspired than ever.

 

[Metal Biker]

Exactly. We should aim to fuck them over in as many ways possible if that's the case.

We'd be pissing in our own pool if we did that.

Better to just have them withdraw the charges, bury the incident and move on.

 

[M18CTID]

We'd be pissing in our own pool if we did that.

Better to just have them withdraw the charges, bury the incident and move on.

Yeah, I get that mate but if they're taking the piss and applying new rules retrospectively then we've got every right to call them out on it and threaten them with legal action.

I trust the club when they say that they have irrefutable evidence of no wrongdoing just as I did in the run-up to the CAS hearing. Can't deny I was still nervous though, and if it turns out that these charges are indeed bullshit then hopefully it does get buried

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Not like you to see the gloomy side, mate! :-)

I made my therapist cry!

 

[Blue Mist]

I guess they might be arguing that if City paid Mancini for his second job that should have been shown in the accounts we submitted to the Premier League. Not FFP related, but supplying false information. But good luck with proving that.

That may be so but the obvious person to speak to is Mancini. He states no one has ever bothered to do that. If there only evidence is the front page of Der Spiegel they are going to look stupid when this goes 'to court' and Pannick whisper 'you do know Mr Mancini is sat outside don't you'

 

[SilverFox2]

Not torture for me. Even if they give us a fine I will take great pleasure in knowing the pain it causes our rivals (They will call us cheats even if we're found totally innocent anyway!)

I do think we are where we are with City on the verge of a treble, due to this shit theyve thrown at us. It makes us stronger.

Agree completely in fact as you say City have prospered off and on the field in spite of their attempts to rule change against us.
It is now in their interests to get it resolved quickly. City are quite happy to let it ferment whilst concurrently the red plus teams are becoming increasingly financially vulnerable.
Lets see how long the UK media can continue to back the wrong horses.

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

The PL must surely understand that this could serve to push our supporters & club towards the ESL & it’s the greedy cartel clubs driving it, no wonder the Scouse owners have done an about turn & the Glazers are looking to hang in there, there’s a massive sub-plot to them just trying to harm our legacy or see us fined & tainted. They want a weaker, just glad to be one of the boys City, joining them in a revamped version of the ESL, one where we’re controlled & kept in line

 

[LeonardoDaVnci]

The PL scatter gun charges revealed their desperation to find something, anything they could use to sanction City. This was after multiple threats and persistent harressment by the Gang of Four. But the PL botched it, numerous errors were found in the charges by posters on here, let alone what our Lawyers have found. If the CPS made those errors against a citizen all charges would be dropped immediately, but the PL is similar to a private members club. Although their disciplinary committee is not subject to the same standards as English civil law the implications of any sanctions would be. This will not be resolved before the UKGOV takes over as the Independent football regulator. At that point the sorry mess designed by the Gang of Four will be revealed for what is, a witch hunt and a Kangaroo court.

 

[BrianW]

I have mentioned this before, but any organisation acting in a quasi-judicial way must follow the rules of Natural Justice or risk having their decision quashed by the High Court.

The concept includes the following principles:

• A person accused of a crime, or at risk of some form of loss, should be given adequate notice about the proceedings (including any charges);
• A person making a decision should declare any personal interest they may have in the proceedings;
• A person who makes a decision should be unbiased and act in good faith. He therefore cannot be one of the parties in the case, or have an interest in the outcome. This is expressed in the Latin maxim, nemo iudex in causa sua: “no man is permitted to be judge in his own cause”;
• Proceedings should be conducted so they are fair to all the parties – expressed in the Latin maxim, audi alteram : “let the other side be heard”;
• Each party to a proceeding is entitled to ask questions and contradict the evidence of the opposing party;
• A decision-maker should take into account relevant considerations and extenuating circumstances, and ignore irrelevant considerations;
• Justice should be seen to be done. If the community is satisfied that justice has been done they will continue to place their faith in the courts.

Note the third point in particular. It explains why City are questioning the choice of 'judge'. Quite correctly in my view, although I am no lawyer to say so. It seems to me that the judge(s) should preferably have no connections to football at all, but certainly not to PL rivals with an interest in the case.

 

[Asa's left peg]

Here's another driving analogy - run the feckers over and keep on going.

 

[Ballosteve]

Here's another driving analogy - run the feckers over and keep on going.

Then reverse and do it again....

 

[Bald fraud]

Then reverse and do it again....

Then wheel spin off on their bollocks!

 

[salfordbluetrue]

I have mentioned this before, but any organisation acting in a quasi-judicial way must follow the rules of Natural Justice or risk having their decision quashed by the High Court.

The concept includes the following principles:

• A person accused of a crime, or at risk of some form of loss, should be given adequate notice about the proceedings (including any charges);
• A person making a decision should declare any personal interest they may have in the proceedings;
• A person who makes a decision should be unbiased and act in good faith. He therefore cannot be one of the parties in the case, or have an interest in the outcome. This is expressed in the Latin maxim, nemo iudex in causa sua: “no man is permitted to be judge in his own cause”;
• Proceedings should be conducted so they are fair to all the parties – expressed in the Latin maxim, audi alteram : “let the other side be heard”;
• Each party to a proceeding is entitled to ask questions and contradict the evidence of the opposing party;
• A decision-maker should take into account relevant considerations and extenuating circumstances, and ignore irrelevant considerations;
• Justice should be seen to be done. If the community is satisfied that justice has been done they will continue to place their faith in the courts.

Note the third point in particular. It explains why City are questioning the choice of 'judge'. Quite correctly in my view, although I am no lawyer to say so. It seems to me that the judge(s) should preferably have no connections to football at all, but certainly not to PL rivals with an interest in the case.

Now i am under the impression that the reason UEFA locked the evidence away from the first charges, was the company they used was a hostile company, owned by Gill not an independent, which would have null and voided not just City`s punishment, but the 100s of others as everyone would have raised concerns, City could not lock away any evidence so it had to be UEFA.

 

[salfordbluetrue]

Then reverse and do it again....

I thought you had noticed? it is a roundabout, just make sure you have a full tank:)

 

[Pam]

Then wheel spin off on their bollocks!

Then burn them. Burn them all!

 

[Pam]

The PL scatter gun charges revealed their desperation to find something, anything they could use to sanction City. This was after multiple threats and persistent harressment by the Gang of Four. But the PL botched it, numerous errors were found in the charges by posters on here, let alone what our Lawyers have found. If the CPS made those errors against a citizen all charges would be dropped immediately, but the PL is similar to a private members club. Although their disciplinary committee is not subject to the same standards as English civil law the implications of any sanctions would be. This will not be resolved before the UKGOV takes over as the Independent football regulator. At that point the sorry mess designed by the Gang of Four will be revealed for what is, a witch hunt and a Kangaroo court.

But ... but ... but what about the grass? We didn't cut the grass right and a cat ran on the field because of it. That cat has ruined football. I bet it isn't even grass . That's cheating, that is. The Etihad pitch cheated!

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

But ... but ... but what about the grass? We didn't cut the grass right and a cat ran on the field because of it. That cat has ruined football. I bet it isn't even grass . That's cheating, that is. The Etihad pitch cheated!

That's Klopp's ready made excuse for next seasons defeat sorted.

 

[halfcenturyup]

I would have thought that being part of the Premier League establishment (Chair of the Premier League Judicial Panel) was a rather more germane objection than him being an Arsenal supporter. It can hardly be an independent process if someone closely associated with one of the parties is chairing the panel.

Jermain objection? What Defoe are you talking about?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Battery power in kw hours, after all we are now hybrid driven with 23 percent non oil ownership.

That piss doesn't boil itself you know.

 

[FootballSense]

Not Independent

The media pretense about the PL panel being so called independent must stop. There is nothing independent about this process.

It has been led by redtops American owners whose business model is to sweat the assets for the least investment possible and whose `clubs` have fallen behind because of their own actions and, to different extents, their own mismanagement.

Two of the redtops were given exclusivity to vet the appointment of the PL`s current CEO after the 2 candidates who had been offered the job withdrew.

The Chair of the PL is a Manchester United fan.

The bloke given the job of leading the review of the allegations is a Member of Arsenal FC.

Furthermore the allegations all stemmed from illegally obtained e-mails from an extortionist who is awaiting conviction after partial information was leaked to a German news outlet who distorted the position.

In the interests of `fairness, lets now have a detailed scrutiny of every aspect of the redtops over the past 15 years and require them to hand over all accounts and details of their operation to a lawyer appointed by Manchester City to pour over. That is what they have done to City.

Independent ! Do me a favour.