PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[minimalistic]

I think your first point is a good, simplified breakdown on what the main charge is.

All I’m wary about is if they’ve got a secret whistleblower ready to blow the case open, which I’d highly doubt. I’m speaking as if City are guilty and hiding the truth, which I don’t think is the case.

There’s some very smart people on here and from the information I’ve gathered from the past two days, I’d say we’ll be cleared for the more serious charges and we’ll be hit with some charges relating to failing to cooperate with the investigation.

One thing that does pop up into my mind is the Prem have possibly created the biggest story line regarding one of their own football clubs for years, six times champions in fact. Is their evidence anymore damning than UEFA’s or are they playing the same game as them by causing more damage to our reputation while also hoping some of shit thrown at us ends up sticking? If the answer is the latter, questions need to be asked who is behind their motive. After all, they will have done serious damage to their own reputation if City prove we’ve done nothing wrong.

Even if there is a whistleblower there needs to be concrete evidence to substantiate the claims. Anyone can turn up and say they saw the sheik turn up and hand over a suitcase if cash, but without indisputable evidence it doesn't count for anything.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

I could not of put that any better

Have!
You could not have put it better.

 

[meltonblue]

Yeah, I'm not too bothered about the look. They were overpaying him for sure but again, that's none of the PL's business. The clubs are both owned by the same owner. Related party seems a stretch just because some employees facilitated some payments from one their owners accounts to another. Maybe I'm wrong though.

I haven't read anything about negotiations. Can you summarise?

They didn’t just facilitate payments by the look of it, they were processing them from a city related account if the emails are true.

The negotiations were basically Garry Cook agreeing what the terms for the Al Jazira contract renewal as well as the City one should be at the same time.

 

[chesterbells]

Breaking my Talksport ban to listen to Martin Samuel, who sounds like he’s on 7-10pm tonight - unfortunately with liverpool’s Darren Lewis*
I’ve missed the first 45 mins - hopefully I didn’t miss any chat about us.
*Show being hosted by united fan Hugh Woozencroft too.

Edit - they are talking City & ESL next hour

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Same as CAS, I get the impression they have charged us with what they can without any co-operation from the club.

And like CAS we will present evidence for each charge that the committee will have to accept.

I seem to be the only one on the whole forum who is pretty relaxed about all this and not at all concerned by stories of accounting fraud and misleading auditors.

So I am probably wrong. :)

I’m getting more relaxed about it by the day.
The reemergence of the ESL is the icing on the cake as far as I’m concerned.
I’m on board along for the ride now. Let’s see how this shitstorm progresses.
I’m dying to see where we end up playing if that ever happens.
It could be the end of my interest in soccerball or the revival of my enthusiasm for football.

Cmon City. Do what’s right…. as usual.

 

[Metalartin]

They didn’t just facilitate payments by the look of it, they were processing them from a city related account if the emails are true.

The negotiations were basically Garry Cook agreeing what the terms for the Al Jazira contract renewal as well as the City one should be at the same time.

An ADUG(aka Sheikh Mansour who owns ADUG and Al Jazira too) related account you mean? ADUG weren't just for City, they do lots more, the bank account in question probably had many uses too. I wouldn't get too worried unless you know the legalities involved.

I'd have to read the Gary Cook stuff(anyone have a link?) because the press like to frame stuff a certain way when it can easily be framed another way. Like I did in the above paragraph.

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

It is hard to believe that a matter which could ruin City if we lose and the PL if they win or lose and we don't even know what we have been charged with! I presume the club do but we have only the vaguest of ideas. I am, however, getting rather bullish based on the view that I took during events leading to the CAS verdict: there is nothing to worry about because those who own and run our club have done nothing wrong.

 

[WRicko]

I don’t remember any details of this Mancini stuff previously other than he was paid for work done for a club in UAE now seems that we arranged things where has this come from is it new ? Why was it not dealt with before ?

Also I keep seeing talk of a whilstblower but again where has it come from ?

 

[MichaelBBack]

Just stepping back and weighing things up here..

We were taken over in 2008 and had investment pumped into our club to enable us to complete with the likes of the rags, dippers, tarquins and chavs who between them had enjoyed a bit of a carve up with regards to winning leagues and cups and in turn benefitting from the millions of £'s CL qualification had to offer.

In what then appeared to be a fit of panic, new PL rules were quickly being assembled to ensure we wouldn't be to gate-crash the closed shop party.

However, because we were professional, clever and smart, we managed to get into the castle just before the drawbridge closed.

Obviously, the usual suspects were well pissed off..

From thereon in, not only did we build a team capable of competing with the chosen few, we assembled a management infrastructure that blew the old guard completely away.

The old ways where owners such as the Glazers, Kronke's and FSG's systematically syphoned off £100's of millions out of their clubs was being shown up for what it was..'pure greed'..!

The Glazers have taken out £1.1 billion pounds out of the rags since 2005 and have still not repaid anything anywhere near substantial off the £500 million pounds debt they originally dumped on the club.

Not a fkin peep about about this from the cnuts in the media btw..

Bingo, constantly whinging about the unfairness of it all whilst wasting untold millions on cart horses, this after spending £130 million pounds plus on a goalie and centre back. The fkin hypocrite..

City's new owners were not only investing in the team and management infanstructure, they were investing in East Manchester, generating 100's of local jobs, building a state of the art training complex and extending and improving stadium facilities..

All along, during this time you had the usual suspects looking at what we were doing with complete disgust..

City's owners were showing the rest of the PL and wider watching world how a football club should be run..

The watching world however were not impressed. They were far from happy that our club had 'elbowed it's way', albeit legitimately, onto the top table.

The G14 were getting rather pissed off too it seemed.

City soon faced charges of cheating and corruption, threats of CL expulsion and heavy fines.

Yet another obstacle for us to climb over.

Well guess what, we faced these charges head on and not only were we cleared of all the shit levied at us, we once again showed up the entitled establishment for what it was, a jumped up kangaroo court, backed by jealous, greedy owners of clubs who over the years had creamed off untold £millions without a thought for anyone else..

Over all this time, City went about their business on the field, playing mesmerising football, breaking record after record and winning stuff..

Let's not forget, Silva, Toure, Zabletta, Hart, Lescott, Clichy, Aguero, Nazri, Dzeko, Barry and the like were not the established world stars of the day.

I remember the media piss taking by one and all when Kaka turned us down, what was it ? Oh yeah, "you might have the money but you haven't got the class or history"..

They soon changed their tune however, when from 8 points behind with 6 games to play in 2012, we won the league in scenes that will never be bettered on SKYsports TV..

It was written in the stars that Ferguson and his rags team would win the PL that year.

Let's not forget, it would have been the rags 5th PL title in 6 years, btw, not a fkin peep out of the media twats about how unfair the rags dominance was back then, not a fkin squeak..

Ferguson had already been humiliated at the swamp 6-1 and had lost the return game at the Etihad in the most one sided1-0 you will ever had seen.

His team shit themselves that night and never crossed the halfway line, let alone had a shot on our goal..

Sergio's goal killed him, his team and the PL on that day.

At that precise time, I can safely say that I had never been happier in life..

Behind the scenes though, the chosen few were boiling with rage.

Not only had City beaten them on the pitch, they had fkin smashed them off it too..

The powers that be then wheeled in VAR and sold it as the tool to end all doubt, no more grey areas, dodgy decisions, unfair calls and confusion.

It's been and still is a clusterfuck of epic proportions, Rashford's 'goal' was a fkin bent, blatent cheating, scandalous fkin decision..

Fast forward to today, the chavs ownership has changed and yet another yank has appeared on the scene.


The chavs have managed to write off £1.5 billion pounds worth of loans Abramovich had saddled them with and they have just gone and spunked in the region of £600 million on new players.

Not a fkin peep out of the twats at SKY or the usual media twats about FFP, dodgy dealings or unfairness of it all, not a fkin peep..

The rags and dippers are now being hawked around all and sundry and my guess is it's because their yank owners have finally realised that we in the UK are not the US.

We don't run our football clubs as franchises where there is no relegation or promotion and you get to cream the money off year in year out..

You invest, build, nurture, manage and plan. You then compete on a level playing field and work hard to win stuff..

Apparently not any more you fkin don't..!

In yet another roll of the dice, the PL have delved back in time to 2009 to rummage through our accounts to see what they can now stick us with..

Our accounts that btw have been meticulously pawed over time and again prior to being signed off as true and correct back in the day..

Never mind that though, over 100 charges apparently, all the usual suspects are now giddy as fcuk, baying for us to be hit with relegation, title stripping, expulsion, points deduction... All of these they all scream..

Well guess what you bunch of bent fcukers, we've beaten you on and off the pitch, we've beaten you at the CAS and I have 100% faith that we'll beat you again..

Our owners have remained firm time and again and have shown their commitment to City by fighting all these allegations off for years and I'm certain that they are not going to throw the towel in now.

We are a £4billion pound giant of the game with the highest turnover in world football..

That's why I have complete trust in the guys that run our club..

That's why I know we're not going to go away into the darkness lightly..

That's why I'm confident that we are going to straighten this out once and for all..

However, I don't want us just to finally clear our name, I want my pound of flesh..

I sincerely hope that we blow these fcukers out of the water and if that means we sue their arses off in court after this is done and the PL collapses into itself then that'll be a good start as far as I'm concerned..


We have been waiting for this day to finally arrive, we will be fully prepared and I'm convinced that we'll prevail..!

Did anyone else hear some kind of triumphant orchestra building up in the background while reading this?

Amazing post mate. Summed it all up and then some.

 

[RobinHood]

Has this been posted yet?

Thought it was really good summary

Thanks for posting that. I now have a clear understanding (whilst still realising it's a witch hunt anyway).