PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[daveoswald]

This is true. Even if it doesn't hold up the damage in the court of public opinion has been done.

It's like saying someone is a nonce or a woman beater. Even if they aren't, the whispers about it will keep making the rounds.

There was a case a few years ago of a guy getting severely assaulted for being a paediatrician, the local half- wits confused it with being a paedophile, this is what we are up against.

 

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

Just stepping back and weighing things up here..

We were taken over in 2008 and had investment pumped into our club to enable us to complete with the likes of the rags, dippers, tarquins and chavs who between them had enjoyed a bit of a carve up with regards to winning leagues and cups and in turn benefitting from the millions of £'s CL qualification had to offer.

In what then appeared to be a fit of panic, new PL rules were quickly being assembled to ensure we wouldn't be to gate-crash the closed shop party.

However, because we were professional, clever and smart, we managed to get into the castle just before the drawbridge closed.

Obviously, the usual suspects were well pissed off..

From thereon in, not only did we build a team capable of competing with the chosen few, we assembled a management infrastructure that blew the old guard completely away.

The old ways where owners such as the Glazers, Kronke's and FSG's systematically syphoned off £100's of millions out of their clubs was being shown up for what it was..'pure greed'..!

The Glazers have taken out £1.1 billion pounds out of the rags since 2005 and have still not repaid anything anywhere near substantial off the £500 million pounds debt they originally dumped on the club.

Not a fkin peep about about this from the cnuts in the media btw..

Bingo, constantly whinging about the unfairness of it all whilst wasting untold millions on cart horses, this after spending £130 million pounds plus on a goalie and centre back. The fkin hypocrite..

City's new owners were not only investing in the team and management infanstructure, they were investing in East Manchester, generating 100's of local jobs, building a state of the art training complex and extending and improving stadium facilities..

All along, during this time you had the usual suspects looking at what we were doing with complete disgust..

City's owners were showing the rest of the PL and wider watching world how a football club should be run..

The watching world however were not impressed. They were far from happy that our club had 'elbowed it's way', albeit legitimately, onto the top table.

The G14 were getting rather pissed off too it seemed.

City soon faced charges of cheating and corruption, threats of CL expulsion and heavy fines.

Yet another obstacle for us to climb over.

Well guess what, we faced these charges head on and not only were we cleared of all the shit levied at us, we once again showed up the entitled establishment for what it was, a jumped up kangaroo court, backed by jealous, greedy owners of clubs who over the years had creamed off untold £millions without a thought for anyone else..

Over all this time, City went about their business on the field, playing mesmerising football, breaking record after record and winning stuff..

Let's not forget, Silva, Toure, Zabletta, Hart, Lescott, Clichy, Aguero, Nazri, Dzeko, Barry and the like were not the established world stars of the day.

I remember the media piss taking by one and all when Kaka turned us down, what was it ? Oh yeah, "you might have the money but you haven't got the class or history"..

They soon changed their tune however, when from 8 points behind with 6 games to play in 2012, we won the league in scenes that will never be bettered on SKYsports TV..

It was written in the stars that Ferguson and his rags team would win the PL that year.

Let's not forget, it would have been the rags 5th PL title in 6 years, btw, not a fkin peep out of the media twats about how unfair the rags dominance was back then, not a fkin squeak..

Ferguson had already been humiliated at the swamp 6-1 and had lost the return game at the Etihad in the most one sided1-0 you will ever had seen.

His team shit themselves that night and never crossed the halfway line, let alone had a shot on our goal..

Sergio's goal killed him, his team and the PL on that day.

At that precise time, I can safely say that I had never been happier in life..

Behind the scenes though, the chosen few were boiling with rage.

Not only had City beaten them on the pitch, they had fkin smashed them off it too..

The powers that be then wheeled in VAR and sold it as the tool to end all doubt, no more grey areas, dodgy decisions, unfair calls and confusion.

It's been and still is a clusterfuck of epic proportions, Rashford's 'goal' was a fkin bent, blatent cheating, scandalous fkin decision..

Fast forward to today, the chavs ownership has changed and yet another yank has appeared on the scene.


The chavs have managed to write off £1.5 billion pounds worth of loans Abramovich had saddled them with and they have just gone and spunked in the region of £600 million on new players.

Not a fkin peep out of the twats at SKY or the usual media twats about FFP, dodgy dealings or unfairness of it all, not a fkin peep..

The rags and dippers are now being hawked around all and sundry and my guess is it's because their yank owners have finally realised that we in the UK are not the US.

We don't run our football clubs as franchises where there is no relegation or promotion and you get to cream the money off year in year out..

You invest, build, nurture, manage and plan. You then compete on a level playing field and work hard to win stuff..

Apparently not any more you fkin don't..!

In yet another roll of the dice, the PL have delved back in time to 2009 to rummage through our accounts to see what they can now stick us with..

Our accounts that btw have been meticulously pawed over time and again prior to being signed off as true and correct back in the day..

Never mind that though, over 100 charges apparently, all the usual suspects are now giddy as fcuk, baying for us to be hit with relegation, title stripping, expulsion, points deduction... All of these they all scream..

Well guess what you bunch of bent fcukers, we've beaten you on and off the pitch, we've beaten you at the CAS and I have 100% faith that we'll beat you again..

Our owners have remained firm time and again and have shown their commitment to City by fighting all these allegations off for years and I'm certain that they are not going to throw the towel in now.

We are a £4billion pound giant of the game with the highest turnover in world football..

That's why I have complete trust in the guys that run our club..

That's why I know we're not going to go away into the darkness lightly..

That's why I'm confident that we are going to straighten this out once and for all..

However, I don't want us just to finally clear our name, I want my pound of flesh..

I sincerely hope that we blow these fcukers out of the water and if that means we sue their arses off in court after this is done and the PL collapses into itself then that'll be a good start as far as I'm concerned..


We have been waiting for this day to finally arrive, we will be fully prepared and I'm convinced that we'll prevail..!

Had a bit of time on our hands have we Bill? ;-)

Brilliant writing mate............

 

[Brendan110_0]

They didn’t just facilitate payments by the look of it, they were processing them from a city related account if the emails are true.

The negotiations were basically Garry Cook agreeing what the terms for the Al Jazira contract renewal as well as the City one should be at the same time.

That wasn't against Premier league rules at the time even if that did happen.

 

[Metalartin]

Whistleblowers may well be people with an axe to grind and can make malicious allegations

All it took was for Yaya to mutter Pep doesn't like black players because he was on the decline and not getting picked. That still hasn't gone away. Even if people know it's nonsense, they will use it when they need it.

 

[Bluearmy]

Mic drop post!

It is all part of a continuing narrative that Khaldoon & Co are bent, because City upset the apple cart.

If any of these sponsorship deals had been done with another “Top 6 club,” no-one would have batted an eyelid. I point you to the record-breaking, head scratching Chevrolet deal (A General Motors brand not even available in the UK) with Man Utd! People questioned it, seeing as United had American owners, but it was supposedly all about “branding” and the “halo effect” of being on the shirts of a top team shown around the world on Premier League game days.

Errrr, isn’t that EXACTLY what EVERY SPONSOR is paying for?

Oh wait, OUR sponsors seem to be focused on the ME. Uh huh, because Sheikh Mansour’s ownership, and success on the field, have made City, and the extensive media presence they elicit, an important source of exposure for any and all sponsorship!!!

No, this is more than that. City were always a “fuck up club!” They were always the “almost” club, the Noisy Neighbors to the supposed real big money draw team in Manchester. However, when Mansour bought the club for a song from Shinawatra, not only did he see an excellent value, he saw an excellent opportunity…both sporting and business…which he has helped provide seed money, raised considerable outside investment, and funded a renaissance of not only the club, but the poverty stricken environs in which he has chosen to invest.

In short, Sheikh Mansour has been a MODEL OWNER!!! He provided a base upon which a 10-year plan for success was built. It was no secret.

He built the best Academy in the world, a college to ensure young players got an education because reality dictates only a very small fraction of them will ever make a living playing football.

CITC, was, is, and continues to be a model for how to engage in the Community.

He paid for the expansion of a stadium he doesn’t even own, which generates millions of pounds for the City of Manchester, and is looking to do it again in the near future.

He is developing the area around the Etihad in to an entertainment and sports complex to rival anything in the world.

In short, he has turned a has been, also ran, Club steeped in (somewhat ancient) history back into a club which can compete with the best, as it did 50 years ago…and the Big Money Biys who had helped dial up all the money sloshing around d the PL & CL for the past two decades DO NOT LIKE IT ONE BIT!!

First UEFA went after City & PSG, the new ME-funded clubs breaking down the doors of the ECA Cartel Clubs. City kept their head down and nose to the grindstone to get into the “club.” PSG chose $$$$! They used BEin Sports to buy UEFA TV rights and then the bent Juventus Chairman nominated him to the ECA Executive Committee. Lo and behold, the PSG Chairman not only funnels millions into the Juventus pockets, but fills up the UEFA coffers AND BECOMES CHAIRMAN OF THE ECA!! Mansour chose NOT to “pay to play” and was dragged through the courts, banned from “their” competition, then acquitted on appeal to an ACTUAL judicial body, where the law actually applies!!

Next up, the little shadow plot from the PL!

Can’t have Little Old City dominating things in the PL, because they’re not one of the “Top 4” that helped create the PL money machine the Top 4 used to fund themselves! Always got the top earnings from the TV rights, always got the top sponsorship deals because they were always the featured games, always got into the CL where the annual payouts are often worth as much as the entire net worth of smaller clubs in the PL…and ALWAYS won the silverware!!

Their “history” was all built on there being a well-financed cartel of 4 that ran the PL for their own edification and remuneration, and breaking into the “club” was not allowed!

Their owners? American and Russian billionaires! No “Dirty Arab Oil Money” allowed!

Again, Sheikh Mansour & Khaldoon played the long game with a 10 year plan of sustainability.

But wait, can’t we STOP these new clubs?

Let’s invent “Financial Fair Play!” Even the name is a lie! It has nothing to do with financial prudence and certainly has nothing to do with fair play, but great name, huh?!

In order to determine “fairness” we will make it so that it doesn’t matter how bad your debts are, as long as you can SERVICE THE INTEREST EVERY YEAR, you’re golden. However, your revenues have to be greater than your expenses, give it take a few Euros, over the course of a rolling 3 years…because the ECA clubs can’t all get into the later stages of the CL every season, can they?! In fact, when they can’t qualify at all, we will literally juice their “UEFA COEFFICIENT” to give them credit for being a big club yesteryear! We gotta keep the big ECA Clubs happy and funded, lest the upstarts get ideas!!

Anyone not totally immersed in football, but with an ounce of business acumen, could sit back, survey the landscape of YEFA & PL policies, procedures and penalties and see the blatant manufacture of a Cartel System designed to protect some at the expense of others.

The wrinkle has been that “others” who have fought to break into the big money game have been attacked (some would say on the field as well as off it!), berated, shamed and belittled in the not inconsiderable media cesspool of mutual backscratching that keeps the chosen clubs in the positive media and the gatecrashers on the defensive. PSG chose a legal bribe and were rewarded. City chose the finger!

And, here we sit. Almost without fail, every red top has City guilty and “possibly” not even allowed in the EFL (smh), while others focus on how every piece of silverware is now tainted and should be polished up and awarded to the also-rans.

The clutching of pearls by these multi billionaires and their clubs is laughable! They ALL spent more money than Vity with less success, but are claiming things like a lm arms length business deal was TOO good, that if our manager made a few quid OUTSIDE THE CLUB, that it should have been reflected on City’s books, and on and on and on…

I have no reason whatsoever to believe one of the richest men in the world would pull penny ante bullshit to make a buck. NONE! But then, often, when you see people going after others, they are projecting their own impulses and desires on the situation. Their own biases and beliefs.

Could it be that Sheikh Mansour and Khaldoon simply sat down, learned the rules of the game, leveraged them to the hilt to build this club from the ashes into the best, most successful club in England for the past decade? Nah…because when you’re a hammer with a warped mentality, everything looks like a nail!

I am absolutely confident City will be exonerated. There MAY be a technical infringement thrown into the mix that fouls up the works a bit, which will allow the “I told you do!” crowd to have their moment, but to suggest City are a club built on corruption defies reality.

Two people can disagree on the value of anything. After all, a deal only occurs when both sides believe they’re getting better value than the other. However, to legally prove an arms length business valuation does not pass muster is a ridiculously high hurdle to overcome, and I don’t think the PL will fo any better than the CL in proving it.

The clickbait media will run, and fun, and run, and fun with the story until they’ve squeezed every last ad click out of it. Nothing new there!

The problem will be all the ex-pro talking heads with their own personal and financial agendas. There are a metric shitton of column inches and media interviews to be done to help fill their pockets on this subject…even though 99% of them know less about this than the average engaged City fan, and 100% know less than City’s legal team.

But, make no mistake, EVERYONE IN FOOTBALL is hoping this knocks City off their perch. EVERYONE!

We are going to have to live with that for a long, long time and the long term whisper campaign to damage City’s reputation and tarnish their silverware will become a wall of sound, especially from the red shirts who think it means they really won that silverware because they didn’t cheat!

“We’re Man City, we’ll fight to the end!”

And, wouldn’t it REALLY BOIL SOME PISS if we won the two jewels in the crown of British football this season and did an FA Cup and Premier League double?! HAHAHA!!

If only PIGMOL didn’t hate us, too!

Dont think they’re available in Europe even

 

[Cobwebcat]

Even if we have broken a rule we still have done nothing wrong. The narrative that, if we have broken a rule, we deserve to be relegated is nonsense even if that is the end result. All blues need to remember that.

We haven’t bribed officials or stolen money. We have invested in a football club and developed an area of East Manchester. That is something to be proud of not punished as “cheats”

Never forget. Never join in with… if we are found to have broken the rules we must be heavily punished. It’s utter crap and I would say that whether it was City or not. Every fan of every other club would love our owners.

 

[SilverFox2]

He’s still a multi millionaire he does the show so he can stroke his ego

I agree he is a well heeled and should not need the money.

However his chosen pastime that he gets paid for can be extended by giving diametric opposite viewpoints on the same subject.

Perhaps he wants really to be a critic because he failed badly running Crystal Palace.

 

[Keith Moon]

I'm not sure I understand the Mancini stuff. Maybe I am oversimplifying it but it seems to me that if he did consultancy work for Al Jazira, then that should not show on City's accounts. What they chose to pay him is none of the PL's business. If there's nothing stopping Mancini doing consultancy work while manager of one club, why would there be anything to stop City's finance department employees assisting in the process. They are essentially Sheikh Mansour's employees. Like I said, I'm not sure I understand the legalities of this and I'm not sure those getting worried about it fully understand it either.

It had nothing to do with ffp, just a way for Mancini to avoid tax in Italy.

 

[Bez]

Thanks for posting that. I now have a clear understanding (whilst still realising it's a witch hunt anyway).

Has this been posted yet?

Thought it was really good summary

Thanks for sharing. Very helpful. May the force be with us.

 

[Kippax77]

This thread is sort of cross between an AA meeting, a Samaritans call and the Open University (Law and Geo Politics being sspecialist subjects)

As many others have said a full on media blackout (can't even face even headlines on newsnow City page) with this being the only safe port in the current storm.

We,ll come through the current shitstorm stronger than ever of that i've no doubt, i've every faith in the club to put these bastards in their place once and for all.

Just stepping back and weighing things up here..

We were taken over in 2008 and had investment pumped into our club to enable us to complete with the likes of the rags, dippers, tarquins and chavs who between them had enjoyed a bit of a carve up with regards to winning leagues and cups and in turn benefitting from the millions of £'s CL qualification had to offer.

In what then appeared to be a fit of panic, new PL rules were quickly being assembled to ensure we wouldn't be to gate-crash the closed shop party.

However, because we were professional, clever and smart, we managed to get into the castle just before the drawbridge closed.

Obviously, the usual suspects were well pissed off..

From thereon in, not only did we build a team capable of competing with the chosen few, we assembled a management infrastructure that blew the old guard completely away.

The old ways where owners such as the Glazers, Kronke's and FSG's systematically syphoned off £100's of millions out of their clubs was being shown up for what it was..'pure greed'..!

The Glazers have taken out £1.1 billion pounds out of the rags since 2005 and have still not repaid anything anywhere near substantial off the £500 million pounds debt they originally dumped on the club.

Not a fkin peep about about this from the cnuts in the media btw..

Bingo, constantly whinging about the unfairness of it all whilst wasting untold millions on cart horses, this after spending £130 million pounds plus on a goalie and centre back. The fkin hypocrite..

City's new owners were not only investing in the team and management infanstructure, they were investing in East Manchester, generating 100's of local jobs, building a state of the art training complex and extending and improving stadium facilities..

All along, during this time you had the usual suspects looking at what we were doing with complete disgust..

City's owners were showing the rest of the PL and wider watching world how a football club should be run..

The watching world however were not impressed. They were far from happy that our club had 'elbowed it's way', albeit legitimately, onto the top table.

The G14 were getting rather pissed off too it seemed.

City soon faced charges of cheating and corruption, threats of CL expulsion and heavy fines.

Yet another obstacle for us to climb over.

Well guess what, we faced these charges head on and not only were we cleared of all the shit levied at us, we once again showed up the entitled establishment for what it was, a jumped up kangaroo court, backed by jealous, greedy owners of clubs who over the years had creamed off untold £millions without a thought for anyone else..

Over all this time, City went about their business on the field, playing mesmerising football, breaking record after record and winning stuff..

Let's not forget, Silva, Toure, Zabletta, Hart, Lescott, Clichy, Aguero, Nazri, Dzeko, Barry and the like were not the established world stars of the day.

I remember the media piss taking by one and all when Kaka turned us down, what was it ? Oh yeah, "you might have the money but you haven't got the class or history"..

They soon changed their tune however, when from 8 points behind with 6 games to play in 2012, we won the league in scenes that will never be bettered on SKYsports TV..

It was written in the stars that Ferguson and his rags team would win the PL that year.

Let's not forget, it would have been the rags 5th PL title in 6 years, btw, not a fkin peep out of the media twats about how unfair the rags dominance was back then, not a fkin squeak..

Ferguson had already been humiliated at the swamp 6-1 and had lost the return game at the Etihad in the most one sided1-0 you will ever had seen.

His team shit themselves that night and never crossed the halfway line, let alone had a shot on our goal..

Sergio's goal killed him, his team and the PL on that day.

At that precise time, I can safely say that I had never been happier in life..

Behind the scenes though, the chosen few were boiling with rage.

Not only had City beaten them on the pitch, they had fkin smashed them off it too..

The powers that be then wheeled in VAR and sold it as the tool to end all doubt, no more grey areas, dodgy decisions, unfair calls and confusion.

It's been and still is a clusterfuck of epic proportions, Rashford's 'goal' was a fkin bent, blatent cheating, scandalous fkin decision..

Fast forward to today, the chavs ownership has changed and yet another yank has appeared on the scene.


The chavs have managed to write off £1.5 billion pounds worth of loans Abramovich had saddled them with and they have just gone and spunked in the region of £600 million on new players.

Not a fkin peep out of the twats at SKY or the usual media twats about FFP, dodgy dealings or unfairness of it all, not a fkin peep..

The rags and dippers are now being hawked around all and sundry and my guess is it's because their yank owners have finally realised that we in the UK are not the US.

We don't run our football clubs as franchises where there is no relegation or promotion and you get to cream the money off year in year out..

You invest, build, nurture, manage and plan. You then compete on a level playing field and work hard to win stuff..

Apparently not any more you fkin don't..!

In yet another roll of the dice, the PL have delved back in time to 2009 to rummage through our accounts to see what they can now stick us with..

Our accounts that btw have been meticulously pawed over time and again prior to being signed off as true and correct back in the day..

Never mind that though, over 100 charges apparently, all the usual suspects are now giddy as fcuk, baying for us to be hit with relegation, title stripping, expulsion, points deduction... All of these they all scream..

Well guess what you bunch of bent fcukers, we've beaten you on and off the pitch, we've beaten you at the CAS and I have 100% faith that we'll beat you again..

Our owners have remained firm time and again and have shown their commitment to City by fighting all these allegations off for years and I'm certain that they are not going to throw the towel in now.

We are a £4billion pound giant of the game with the highest turnover in world football..

That's why I have complete trust in the guys that run our club..

That's why I know we're not going to go away into the darkness lightly..

That's why I'm confident that we are going to straighten this out once and for all..

However, I don't want us just to finally clear our name, I want my pound of flesh..

I sincerely hope that we blow these fcukers out of the water and if that means we sue their arses off in court after this is done and the PL collapses into itself then that'll be a good start as far as I'm concerned..


We have been waiting for this day to finally arrive, we will be fully prepared and I'm convinced that we'll prevail..!

This post should of had a grand unveiling on the 1000th page.
It's the one everyone needs to read to bring us all together and ready us for the battle ahead.
Pride in battle as never sounded more apt