PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

The Reckless Pen said:
My first post

1. Differences between UEFA Rules and Premier League Rules

The Premier League Rules should be a carbon copy of UEFA Rules.

The main difference between the Premier League and UEFA is UEFA have a Statute of Limitations, which limits the availability of evidence to 5 years. The PL do not have that. However, under English Law, most companies have to comply with The Limitations Act 1980. The Limitation Period in England is generally 6 years.

UEFA have rules in regards to where evidence comes from and it can’t come from illegal sources. City qualified several times that the hacked and stolen emails were illegal in the CAS case, but said they would co-operate with defending the allegations regardless. However, if you look at the the PL Handbook, it states that the source of data and evidence is an irrelevance as far as they are concerned. This surely will form part of City’s defence that some (if not all) of the evidence provided by the PL will have come from inappropriate sources (Der Spiegel, Rui Pinto and Football Leaks) and there will be a huge lack of credibility with that evidence.

What takes precedence when 2 contrasting rulebooks (UEFA and PL) have discrepancies or different rules? What takes precedence when European Law regarding limitation periods differs to English Law?
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We were not cleared by CAS because of the source of the evidence, or time restrictions. Cleared, btw, is the right terminology, not punishment reduced, not ban overturned, cleared. We were cleared because the evidence submitted showed no wrongdoing as alleged by uefa. The time barred charges, were not examined, but there is every chance they too would have been cleared.

This is not about a difference in technicalities between the PL and Uefa processes.
 
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The perfect fumble said:
That is as wrong as wrong can be.

There are undiscovered tribes in the Amazon rain forest who know that City are cheats.
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Man city. Cutting down. Rain forests since 2008
 
Colin Bells Boots said:
The Govan Bully was so bloody arrogant that he banned anybody and everybody who did not lick his or the rags arse so you may be correct.

Rob Harris proved himself to be a complete **** when interviewing Pep on that specific occasion and really should have been banned from City Press Conferences with immediate effect .
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tbh they all should be, still dont know why city haven't
 
Centurions said:
The PL have charged us, it's absolutely nothing to do with UEFA or European law. UEFA had their shot and missed by a country mile.
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2. The Limitations Act 1980

I understand that, but discrepancies between Rules and Laws undermines the PL's case and our lawyers will start with that. The Limitations Act 1980 destroys a lot of the PL's evidence if it's applicable.

Para 174 of the CAS Arbitration Award found that the LImitation Period ended with the Referral Decision on 15th May 2019, so the Limitation Period for the charges brought in the Referral Decision started to run on 15th May 2014 (5 year limitation) Breaches committed as from 15th May 2014 therefore fell within the Limitation Period and may be prosecuted, while prosecution of breaches committed prior to such date is barred by application of Article 37 CFCB Procedural Rules.

Using the same logic, the PL would only be able to investigate any alleged breaches going back to 15th May 2013 (6 year limitation) or when they discovered the alleged fraud, concealment or mistake.

Hacked Emails 14th April 2010, 6th September 2012, 7th December 2012 would still be inadmissible and time barred but emails 29th August 2013 and 11th December 2013 and “undated” email and “total cash” sheet could be prosecuted if proven to be breaches. That's half the PL's evidence time barred and dismissed.

Another thought, if the PL's FFP didn't start until 2014, then all the hacked emails could be inadmissible.
 
Bodicoteblue said:
I’m getting increasingly worried about our bribery and corruption dept. letting this drag on so long. They should increase the under the counter payments and bribes and get this done, or hand it over to the kidnap and assassination dept. and let them deal with it.
We‘ll never ruin football forever at this rate.
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All in hand. We planted some inappropriate pictures in Richard Masters Laptop and gave him some options. Hence the washing his hands of it. Sheikh Mansour paid the CIA to train our staff. I was told by a Rag or read it on Football365, can’t recall which.
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
ProjectRiver has made it pretty clear that, except for in very exceptional circumstances, there is no recourse to the Courts, and those exceptional circumstances wouldn’t embrace the kind of re-run of proceedings what we’d likely be after.
I have the same reservations as KSSS. We can get super-excited on here by news that City (perhaps correctly) believe the PL’s case is piss weak, but they’re picking the man who picks the tribunal, so the chances of a bent charade, with the ‘high bar’ lowered to the point that Tyrion Lannister could limbo under it, cannot be dismissed out of hand. Be upbeat at what we’ve heard today, but don’t bet everything you’ve got on it just yet.
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Excuse my ignorance but just what has been heard today, I assume that it has be said in here but busy at the moment so no time to peruse the whole days postings ...TIA
 
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