Declan Rice

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jrb said:
Serious question.

Is it a London/Cockney upbringing? Why are Arsenal fans so loud and arrogant? Watching Arsenal fans on Arsenal TV mouth off and hearing them on the TV and radio brought that home clearly. Prior to the collapse, Arsenal fans were pretty unbearable. There’s no humility at all in them.
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Chiefmcfc said:


I want Rice just to witness this little cunts salty tears. Arsenal have firmly moved up the “fuck them” ladder after this season.
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Because Arsenal are buying Declan Rice with 100 million fruit pastilles are they?

Thick **** would be dangerous if he had a half a brain cell to back up his mindless drivel.

And what History and Tradition is he referring to here anyway, because in Declan Rice’s lifetime Arsenal’s history has - FA Cup aside, which admittedly they’ve been pretty good in - largely been one of serial disappointment and a brittle failure to deliver, despite all the money they’ve spent!

Unless he expects us to believe Rice is joining Arsenal because of Herbert Chapman’s record back in the 1930s
 
Jack Hackett said:
I‘m not confident at all about the coming season. It depends upon a good transfer window and young players maintaining their form. Even then, it’s difficult to see us matching City for squad strength in depth, essential if you’re to challenge for the title. However, my main point in this thread is that Arsenal despite the dismissiveness expressed by many posters on this thread, is not without its own attractions for Rice as I’ve already stated. The attractions of joining City are all too obvious but it doesn’t mean there aren’t any questions he’d want assurances on.

Such as:

1. Will my first season with City be as an understudy?
2. Some City players are ageing/going…can City maintain the excellence of the season just gone? Having been so successful, will the hunger still be there?
3. Will Pep step down in 2 years?
4. Will the PL make their FFP charges stick and if so, what are the repercussions likely to be?
5. Would I prefer to stay in London?

I‘ve no idea what the answers to those questions will be but at age 24, Rice is on the verge of committing himself to a contract likely to define his career.

As for the coming season, my only hope is we maintain our challenge for the title and secure top 4 again. Winning the title is an aspiration but realistically is unlikely.

Lastly, I’m too old and cynical to be crushed by disappointment…being a football fan means hoping for the best whilst expecting the worst. As much as I want Arsenal to succeed, there are more important things in life and in that regard I’m grateful to be fortunate.
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1 ask Jack, Rodri & Akanji
2 is Declan being signed to replace those ageing player
3 irrelevant because Pep has been here 7 years & City will invest in the best man to replace him who won't be Arteta
4 if your pinning your hopes on the ffp charges, then you're going to be sorely disappointed & his agent could impose a clause that he can walk
5 another irrelevant point as City wouldn't be interested if Declan has said that.
 
jrb said:
Serious question.

Is it a London/Cockney upbringing? Why are Arsenal fans so loud and arrogant? Watching Arsenal fans on Arsenal TV mouth off and hearing them on the TV and radio brought that home clearly. Prior to the collapse, Arsenal fans were pretty unbearable. There’s no humility at all in them.
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Big generalisation about Londoners. I lived in the East End and they were very modest, humble people. Ditto South East London. It’s a diverse city with as much poverty as wealth.
 
jrb said:
Apart from City with Pep here for 2 more years, and maybe Liverpool with Klopp there for 2 more years, which other Manager and team is going to challenge Arteta and Arsenal? I’m not saying Arsenal are going to dominate straightaway, but by the time this young Arsenal team matures, if they stay together, it could be a very dominant team, especially if Arteta stays as manager.
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A lot of ifs
 
Nicholas van Whatsisface said:
I’m in a similar position on this one mate.

Decent player and all that, but I don’t really think he’s what we need - for me, we’d be far better served focusing our investment further up the pitch to start replacing KDB, Bernardo and Gundo. We look very light in attacking midfield, and Rice simply isn’t that kind of player.

We’ve got Rodri, Stones, Phillips and Lewis who to varying degrees can all play a similar role, so I just don’t see the urgent need!

He’s also way over-priced at anywhere near £100m. We paid that for Jack, granted, but I believe there were both on and off the pitch considerations behind that fee that we simply don’t get with Rice.

I trust the Club, so if we are actually in for him I know Pep will have a clear plan for his role in the team - but if me much happier if we were in for someone like Szoboszlai instead.
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Rice's versatility is an obvious attraction to Pep in that as well as a dm he can also play as an emergency cb if required. Like yourself if Rice comes great he will be a decent addition to the squad, however I would like to see us after a wide right or attacking midfield player.
 
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