Declan Rice

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Anyone ever wonder why Phillips went down like a led balloon so much? Like, surely he isn’t THAT bad? You can’t help but feel that Pep just doesn’t like him but then he seems like a nice lad.

I remember we let him have that operation to be fit for the WC but then he came back overweight. I also recall he took a full 2 weeks off on holiday before returning to training despite barely playing before the WC and not playing at the WC either. I always had the feeling that could have pissed Pep off as it might not have sent the right message about wanting to play.

In general he looks a bit overwhelmed and happy to be here. We’ve not even seen much potential. With players that came good in their 2nd season, we at least saw flashes of what they could become earlier on in their City careers and they all at least acted as decent squad players before going to the next level.
 
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Stones had a strong pedigree with us beforehand, he just had issues at home.

Zin was fortunate we never had an established left back, so he could back himself to challenge.

Kalvin has too many hurdles in the way.

He just doesn’t seem fit enough or confident enough to be here?
 
What would the offer be if Kalvin says yes to West ham, would it be 70 mil plus Phillips or will they ask for more.
 
City need to sell phillips, if he went out on loan he could flop again, the phillips saga needs to end
 
Stones had a strong pedigree with us beforehand, he just had issues at home.

Zin was fortunate we never had an established left back, so he could back himself to challenge.

Kalvin has too many hurdles in the way.
Philips fucked it coming back from the World Cup with his derby hanging over his shorts - he should have come back lean and match ready , all the footage I say of him at England camp was him bobbing around on a lilo in the pool clutching a strawberry daiquiri playing head tennis , no doubt gorging himself at the buffet for a month , Pep mentioned it and made it public and called him out , and seeing him pissed along side the treble winners with his £500 shades on clutching a bottle of vodka isn’t quite what is expected of this club. Room 101 I’m afraid , get our money back and move on.
 
Stones had a strong pedigree with us beforehand, he just had issues at home.

Zin was fortunate we never had an established left back, so he could back himself to challenge.

Kalvin has too many hurdles in the way.
Sure, but i think it would be a little romantic if he could keep this ”second season” myth alive.
 
The lads mentality isn’t right , he came back from the World Cup weighing more than when he left for it , and he was celebrating the treble like he’d made a big contribution to it , he was forefront on the celebrations. Wrong attitude full stop. I’m no big Rice lover , but I’d take him all day long if it meant Philips going , Rodri didn’t get a decent rest because of him , but thankfully he runs through brick walls for this club.
I couldn’t believe how pissed he was at the parade. Absolutely baffling.
 
Isn't their source just confirming what everyone else is saying, including multiple journalists. Not that it's a done deal with everything agreed, but they can "know" he's going to Arsenal, even if it's not agreed 100%. Once the player is happy, and both teams are close with the valuation, it's likely just a case of when.

The stories appear to be, he's happy with the deal, he wants to go to Arsenal, and that Arsenal are expected to bid enough to make West Ham happy, even if they're trying to get favourable terms. I've not seen any suggestion that Arsenal believe he's overvalued (something we've seen in the past with City), or that they might walk away, so I expect from City's point of view it is as good as done.

Not really, e.g. Fabrizio and di Marzio imply different things, i.e. that Rice is open to a move to City and City are working on a deal.

Plus, even sources suggesting that Rice prefers a move to Arsenal don't think it's close to be done.
 
Stones had a strong pedigree with us beforehand, he just had issues at home.

Zin was fortunate we never had an established left back, so he could back himself to challenge.

Kalvin has too many hurdles in the way.
Add to that, Pep could take the risk letting Zinny play LB,
but Pep doesn't have the faith letting Kalvin sit in the middlle of the park with his undercooked jogging style.

Would Zinny been fighting for that position the result would have been the same.

Kalvin seems to be deep in his comfort zone with his sweet dimple smile. Someone tell him to play regular footy and WHU is near perfect for him!
 
I couldn’t believe how pissed he was at the parade. Absolutely baffling.
And for the record , Pep will be keeping an eye on our Jack , but I see Jack for the humble grafter he is ! Jack is this country’s new Beckham , but I see Jack going from strength to strength, I love the guy tbh , he’s a player who everyone likes , but back to business Jacky boy !
 
Maybe they were all more pissed because they hardly ever drink.
Either way Pep watching. He would have been far better off not drinking and when asked why he wasn’t partying like the others he could have said ‘because I’m determined to get in the team and so my hard work starts now’.

The message that would have sent out would have been far better than him getting smashed and singing on the mic.
 
Phillips has been told he's unlikely to get many more starting opportunities again next season.
If that's the case, then surely he needs to move on for his own sanity and mental health. I seem to recall him mentioning in an interview that last season has been the most challenging of his career. I genuinely feel sorry for the lad, he has been given very few chances to play and I still think he should been given a second season to prove himself.
 
So we've been closely monitoring Rice for 12 months and he's a top target for us, but we're dependent on the whim of a player we no longer want as to whether or not we make a bid for said top target. That seems very... strange.
 
Hopefully with Phillips going to West Ham either as part of the deal or a separate deal
I’m starting to think that’s the sticking point. Moyes will want a replacement for Rice. Phillips is ideal for them, it’s a good fit both ways. I just don’t see a point in him staying here. There’s no way Rice turns City down given a choice of City or Arsenal. But there’s no chance City will pay £100m upfront for him. They would probably countanance £65m plus Phillips. But if he won’t leave, then it’s over.
I think he’ll go because he needs to play for his England career.
so, we’re all waiting for Phillips I think……
 
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