PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

tolmie's hairdoo said:
Exactly. All done by those who now want a rush job at the tribunal.

The law doesn't work like that.

People study for at least seven years to know how it works.

We have cunts here who think a GCSE in English Literature is a passport to being Ironside.

I got a C in Lit, BTW - never stopped me being a journalist, either!
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Makes you over qualified judging by the standard these days
 
halfcenturyup said:
Hmmmm. One slight amendment. When ADUG paid the club, it was recorded as a reduction against the receivable from Etisalat. If there was a side agreement for ADUG to recover the debt, that would be fine. If there wasn't, then the accounting would be wrong. But it's just a minor classification error in the balance sheet from the accounting viewpoint. Nothing to see there really and certainly nothing that affects the true and fair view given by the accounts.
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Yeah but anything that affected Rodri's winner in the Champions League Final?

For example, the ball could easily have been deflected wide If that minor classification error had not occurred.
 
Tommy_Catons_Perm said:
Yeah but anything that affected Rodri's winner in the Champions League Final?

For example, the ball could easily have been deflected wide If that minor classification error had not occurred.
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From my view behind the goal during the passage of play Gundo goes into a challenge with one of their defenders on the other side of the box, I thought it bobbled up and may have hit his hand. When the goal went in I was awaiting for them to forensically look at the passage of play and rule it out. Was so happy when the game kicked off again so the fuckers couldn’t find any excuse to rule it out.
 
Norman kneejerk said:
So simply put it was there to see in the accounts then, sum owed by Etisalat, then sum paid by Etisalat, is that a fair summary.?
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Yes, effectively. It was from a page of the cas verdict, which was then picked up and repackaged in this homemade youtube documentary. Which I haven't seen just fyi, so am basing on Morgan's presentation of Lawson's interpretation of how the youtubers portrayed it. Which really is ultimately that whole ficking charade really is.


As I read it (the cas verdict), Etisalat were paid the same amount by another person, that they paid City per their agreement. Twice. Then Etisalat paid the other person back, the same amount, later. CAS were satisfied that it wasn't disguised funding, because it was paid back, so effectively Etisalat taking a loan to meet their payment obligations.

If you focus just on one line of that, and don't complete the full sequence of events, it can very much look like someone paid Etisalat under the table to pay us, disguising owner investment. If you leave out the part it was paid back, and CAS found that satisfactory, which they did.

What Morgan and co then went to embelish, was that this charge was valid, but supposedly dismissed by CAS because it was time barred, and this won't be the case with the PL. But as I understand the cas verdict, that is not the case, it was dismissed because it was seen as an internal loan by a sponsor meeting their own obligations.

Either way, it is not new, not a new discovery, revelation, charge or anything that the club haven't previously provided evidence and an explanation for. Whether the PL will have a different interpretation remains to be seen, but you would think if it made sense at CAS, it would make sense elsewhere.
 
Tommy_Catons_Perm said:
Yeah but anything that affected Rodri's winner in the Champions League Final?

For example, the ball could easily have been deflected wide If that minor classification error had not occurred.
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I hadn't thought of that. Maybe the PL case is based on the butterfly effect.

As we all know, the ball doesn't go in by chance .... (I hate that book title).
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
From my view behind the goal during the passage of play Gundo goes into a challenge with one of their defenders on the other side of the box, I thought it bobbled up and may have hit his hand. When the goal went in I was awaiting for them to forensically look at the passage of play and rule it out. Was so happy when the game kicked off again so the fuckers couldn’t find any excuse to rule it out.
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They can always go back and check it under the 6 year rule.
So no celebrations till June 2029,please.
 
Chappie said:
They can always go back and check it under the 6 year rule.
So no celebrations till June 2029,please.
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But then, if it's deemed deliberate, they can go back even further should they so wish. I know the rules are shit but that's what we signed up to so we should have no complaints. Best just to sit out celebrating this one just incase =)
 
John Wayne said:
For the panel to find that the Etisalat payments were disguised owner investment, they'd effectively have to call the chairman of Etisalat a liar. Bearing in mind that this is a publicly listed company on the Abu Dhabi stock exchange, with thousands of ordinary shareholders taking up a 40% stake, the ramifications of any such ruling would be significant. I'd expect the share price to take a hit and calls for a change in leadership at the executive level. Put simply, I don't think Etisalat would take it lying down and would fully expect a counter-action to be brought.
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It's a point worth thinkkng about that the actions don't need to come from city but from the sponsors who are damaged, and perhaps even better they could sue in their home territories.
 
hammocity said:
She’s a Rag, absolutely fucking clueless.
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She sounded like a heavyweight journo to me, They went on to cover the important topics of should men drive with no shirt on & should you wear socks with sandals so I think its fair to say she is quite a important figure in the broadcasting industry :-)
 
Enough is enough. i think its time We started fighting back instead of ignoring it all and taking it on the chin, it's time we started sueing these bastards. Come on City fucking man up and get these cunts in court, let's grow a pair for once shall we. I tell you what this wouldn't have happened at united while ferguson was there he would have fucking hammered them.
 
Chappie said:
Theirs one thing that all these allegations,over the last 10 years has taught us, is to check the facts .
Maybe something that journalists and supporters of other clubs should do.
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'Journalists' don't even have to do this - they just need to check cuts and find the latest allegations are already in the public domain and also came out at CAS.
 
J.G.Blue. said:
Sorry to say it really does look like we are guilty,
Just happened to hear the world renowned footballing intellectual Shebahn Aherne (no me neither?) on Talkshite radio this morning saying "Regarding Man Citys charges, its obvious there can be no smoke without fire"
Case closed I think, take the points and the titles away, and relegate us now & as a club we are very, very sorry.
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Is that who it was going on about new information in a youtube documentary
 
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