Media Discussion - 2023/24

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jrb said:
You haven't seen anything yet, even after years of reading this thread. Somebody has gone to a lot of trouble to produce this

LACK OF CIVIC LEADERSHIP HAS ENABLED MANCHESTER AND NEWCASTLE SPORTSWASHING PROJECTS​


A new report published today finds that political leaders in Manchester and Newcastle have not only declined multiple opportunities to use their positions of influence to express criticism of serious and systematic human rights abuses in the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, but have effectively assisted these two deeply abusive and profoundly anti-democratic states’ efforts to set up ‘soft power enclaves’ in cities with proud histories of protest and dissent.

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Click on the PDF link via the below link to read the report.

Lack of civic leadership has enabled Manchester and Newcastle sportswashing projects – FairSquare

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Fairsquare is the company set up by our old friend Nic McGeehan of course, after HRW kicked him out.
 
Brendan110_0 said:
I guess it's easy to pontificate from a position of wealth (all built on oil extraction). The Western world would be in acute shock if we cut all ties with them and eliminated everything they had to offer. We should always be open to business and dialogue with EVERY country (hate the embargoes, they only hurt normal people - human rights abuse).
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If the uk had never profited from atrocious human rights whilst building empires they wouldn’t be the global power they are today. There’s something very Raggy / Dipper about the way the media considers Geo politics.
 
give it to gordon said:
It's odd how the Americans dont get called out for sportswashing.

Americans have the right to shot each other.
Black lives matter started in America .
American still has huge area of racism and lots live in slum areas.
American was slow to act when Mississippi was hit by hurricane.
American are quick to invade of country's they dont agree with.
American is quick to demand someone is sent to America to face trial. But wont send Americans back to other countries to face trail.
Americans think Hollywood war films are truth to life and it was just them fighting the bad guys.
Lots of Americans are very insular and never leave America.

Americans are now paying football clubs and will turn it into a closed shop. Even little Gillingham is now American owned.

America own most of the uk press/media and are sportswashing on a daily basis.

If we arent careful we will become an America State and another star on the flag !
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Speaking as an American who is also a long time City supporter as was my father before me.
WOW JUST FUCKING WOW

How any of that even remotely suggests sports washing is way beyond the understanding level of my pay grade.
 
deegee33 said:
Speaking as an American who is also a long time City supporter as was my father before me.
WOW JUST FUCKING WOW

How any of that even remotely suggests sports washing is way beyond the understanding level of my pay grade.
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He's suggesting that the good ol' US of A isn't as squeaky clean as it expects other countries to be, but when you're powerful - you make the rules.
 
deegee33 said:
Speaking as an American who is also a long time City supporter as was my father before me.
WOW JUST FUCKING WOW

How any of that even remotely suggests sports washing is way beyond the understanding level of my pay grade.
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I agree it doesn't but I think he was just pointing out America has moral issues just like the human rights in certain countries. Neither has anything to do with football but one is often used by the press to downgrade and tarnish a clubs reputation and the other is ignored to maintain clubs outlook as whiter than white.
 
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give it to gordon said:
This really is pathetic. If these so called journalists believe this than way do they just concentrate on two football clubs ?

Horse racing, cycling, F1 plus other sports have huge middle east support and following. Our government also has huge interest in middle east funding.

Yet its little old City and Newcastle that are the problem lolol.

The football press/media in this country are a fucking disgrace.if they truly believe in sportswashing than call out the other sports.
Call out arsenal for their stadium sponsor.
Call out the fa for the fa cup sponsor.
Call out the cycling teams sponsor.
Call out the government.
Call out all football clubs with middle east sponsors. They dont because those clubs are their pay masters.
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If it was only that simple. Journalist, if you can call them that, are only interested in clickbait traffic. The dippers & rags are hurting that they're no longer dominating so will jump all over anything that shows City in a negative light & City fans jump on it showing the hypocrisy so it's double money for these types of articles.
The media were mentioning the migrant situation at every opportunity during the build up to the world cup but has strangly gone quiet now they are looking at buying the rags.
 
deegee33 said:
Speaking as an American who is also a long time City supporter as was my father before me.
WOW JUST FUCKING WOW

How any of that even remotely suggests sports washing is way beyond the understanding level of my pay grade.
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We’ve all dug our own countries out as well before you get upset.
 
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laserblue said:
That's because they were considered to be taking part as individuals not as representatives of a regime. Tennis players were too.
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That can be a very convenient interpretation though. For example, the media assume this banker Sheikh who is trying to buy the rags has £6bn in his back pocket and his close ties with the Qatar Government are irrelevant.
 
So many rags in the media it’s untrue. Also an infinite amount of plastics in Ireland not taken kindly to our success!
 

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Blue Mist said:
No please don't. Freddie Laker was a pioneer. He took on the big boys, British Airways etc that had all the good routes and were price fixing. They basically ganged together and did his legs. The rags would be British Airways, heavily in debt, owed by foreigners and hated by everyone
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You are right. Man Utd is like a bloated old corporate organisation that feeds off former glories and has arrogant leaders who have struggled to adapt to the competitive forces in the game. Their sense of entitlement must be so very frustrating and saddening for them. The club, their fans etc must cry into their hands everyday and their only respite is watching episodes of the Premier League years from the 1990s on Sky, when United used to hoover up the best players from their competitors.
 
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