Keir Starmer

mexico1970 said:
You wouldn't get the lazy feckless bastards to get off their phones long enough to cull a semi lob on.
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Sorry are you trying to tell me that baby boomers full of racial bigotry and bitterness despite being the generation who had it greatest before fucking over their successors are the hardest workers ?

:)

N.B. FWIW the Brexiteers I've met from my own generation are moaning selfish twats too.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Sorry are you trying to tell me that baby boomers full of racial bigotry and bitterness despite being the generation who had it greatest before fucking over their successors are the hardest workers ?

:)

N.B. FWIW the Brexiteers I've met from my own generation are moaning selfish twats too.
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I'm not into generalisations and hate to feed ideologues before bed but a generation sleepwalking into subservience will not be able to muster up a revolution.

Putting your hands up for a fight means you've got to put your fucking phone down from away from your face for 10 minutes ;)

If you think that being brought up in slums and bombed out housing is having it easy then you must have lived in some proper shitty places.
 
mexico1970 said:
I'm not into generalisations and hate to feed ideologues before bed but a generation sleepwalking into subservience will not be able to muster up a revolution.

Putting your hands up for a fight means you've got to put your fucking phone down from away from your face for 10 minutes ;)

If you think that being brought up in slums and bombed out housing is having it easy then you must have lived in some proper shitty places.
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I didn't say having it easy I said having it good. And you know I was referring to their period of working age and hegemony not their time in nappies or time spent avoiding 1970s entertainers.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
I refuse to drink Horlicks. It's the beverage of the enemy:)
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Rascal said:
I never said that couples base their number of children on the amount of WELFARE they will receive.

Anecdote is not evidence, but here is an anecdote.

My mum was one of 11 children, I am one of 46 cousins, at the last count 15 of my cousins were grandparents and our immediate family from my nan and grandad is around 300 .

In my family we have people who own companies and employ many people, we have refrigration engineers, we have builders, we have joiners, we have teachers, we have pub landladies, we have nursies, we have electricians, we have mechanics, we have footballers at academies, we have truck drivers, we have postmen, we have coach drivers, we have mental health workers, we have bricklayers, we have scaffolders, we have cooks, we have soldiers (proud of them) we have RAF helicopter fixers, we have bus drivers and my family is i believe an examplar of how the welfare state can help produce people who give value back to society.

My family has always been hard working, the family allowance as it was paid to the mother enabled a lot of my family to become economic producers for the country. My family was poor, we lived on a council estate but were proud people. The days i spent at my grandparents were magical, there would be so many cousins there all having a bowl of my Nans leek and tata soup, with a piece of bread i will never forget it.

Family allowance or as it became child "benefit" was vital for my family, without it I doubt very much my family would have achieved so much and the amount of tax paid back into the treasury would have been severley diminished.

It is fucking ridiculous that big families are seen as bad,i love my family, it has given so much to society, we are not bad fuckers either and i find the attacks on big families disgusting,
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Rascal said:
I never said that couples base their number of children on the amount of WELFARE they will receive.

Anecdote is not evidence, but here is an anecdote.

My mum was one of 11 children, I am one of 46 cousins, at the last count 15 of my cousins were grandparents and our immediate family from my nan and grandad is around 300 .

In my family we have people who own companies and employ many people, we have refrigration engineers, we have builders, we have joiners, we have teachers, we have pub landladies, we have nursies, we have electricians, we have mechanics, we have footballers at academies, we have truck drivers, we have postmen, we have coach drivers, we have mental health workers, we have bricklayers, we have scaffolders, we have cooks, we have soldiers (proud of them) we have RAF helicopter fixers, we have bus drivers and my family is i believe an examplar of how the welfare state can help produce people who give value back to society.

My family has always been hard working, the family allowance as it was paid to the mother enabled a lot of my family to become economic producers for the country. My family was poor, we lived on a council estate but were proud people. The days i spent at my grandparents were magical, there would be so many cousins there all having a bowl of my Nans leek and tata soup, with a piece of bread i will never forget it.

Family allowance or as it became child "benefit" was vital for my family, without it I doubt very much my family would have achieved so much and the amount of tax paid back into the treasury would have been severley diminished.

It is fucking ridiculous that big families are seen as bad,i love my family, it has given so much to society, we are not bad fuckers either and i find the attacks on big families disgusting,
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I never at any point said big families are bad.
I specifically said it’s the parents choice as to how many kids they have.
The specific point was on family allowance only.
No one , certainly not me, as far as I am aware has said that additional children should be treated any differently by the State and they are not.
 
mexico1970 said:
I'm not into generalisations and hate to feed ideologues before bed but a generation sleepwalking into subservience will not be able to muster up a revolution.

Putting your hands up for a fight means you've got to put your fucking phone down from away from your face for 10 minutes ;)

If you think that being brought up in slums and bombed out housing is having it easy then you must have lived in some proper shitty places.
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Brexitiers don’t know anything of war
 
The age of the lad isn't and shouldn't be an issue

It is whether it is good that for 2 decades nearly all politicians are careerist ones straight out of uni and a internship or job with big business or in the parliamentary bubble itself not many are being brpught through outside certain sectors.

Mercer was talking absolute bollocks that a 25 year old cannot be life experienced to work the job, it is whether they be it 20 or 60 years of afe actually know and understand the state of Britain and it's citizens and most in westminster, be it boomer Gen X, millenial or Gen Z seem to be clueless

and Starmer has been awful when it comes to local candidates who have worked and lived in the community being put up, blocking their right to stand in selections.

we seem to be on an endless cycle of producing the same standard of MPs with little to show between them and no empathy for the common man, woman or child.
 
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urban genie said:
and Starmer has been awful when it comes to local candidates who have worked and lived in the community being put up, blocking their right to stand in selections.
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To be fair Mather is local - I saw he was born in Hull and raised in Brough so all East Yorkshire
 
halfmist said:
I never at any point said big families are bad.
I specifically said it’s the parents choice as to how many kids they have.
The specific point was on family allowance only.
No one , certainly not me, as far as I am aware has said that additional children should be treated any differently by the State and they are not.
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"Families can have as many kids as they want, just don’t expect the tax payer to fund them."

My post about my family showed that the tax payer funding of children works and my family has paid back in tax what it received probably a hundred fold if not more. Tax payer funding of children is actually investment in the future, it helps produce better educated more rounded units of production, that are economically successful. Success should not be the preserve of the owners of capital, aspiration should be for everyone and if child welfare helps then it should be given to every child not just to the first two born. If such a cap was around when my nan and grandad were having their families my family would have been much poorer than they were and less likely to succeed. My family would have remained in the poverty trap, they would have been less educated and less productive meaning my cousins life chances would also have diminished
 
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