ULEZ Letter

I was never driven to school, i was never driven to an activity, my dad would have said get fucked you lazy ****. I walked to school and back, it was about 3 miles round trip. I would walk to school on saturdays to play football and cricket for the school teams, my dad would be working but my mum would get on her bike to come and watch.

Like I have said, i have a car, I rarely use it and it will be the last car i ever own. I simply do not need one, I use public transport.

Maybe if some of us make the same decision and say this car is my last, we might get clean air for our kids to breathe,
I fully endorse this for those who live within a stones throw of their lifestyle, like many who live in Central London. However, we’re all different and have differing needs.
 
I fully endorse this for those who live within a stones throw of their lifestyle, like many who live in Central London. However, we’re all different and have differing needs.
We certainly know people have different needs. The self interest from some is a good example why we are headed in the direction we are.
 
Heard some halfwit - from Spiked I think - on the radio today claiming that the people of Bromley ( or somewhere near ) are under virtual house arrest due to ULEZ. Nice bit of rabble rousing except ULEZ charges don't kick in until the 29th of this month....... fucking grifters gonna grit I suppose
 
We certainly know people have different needs. The self interest from some is a good example why we are headed in the direction we are.
Are we talking diving in the car to get to the shop which is within a few hundred metres?

We have to accept that people will do things out of self-interest but we shouldn’t accept that it overrides what is best and with their remit.
 
Are we talking diving in the car to get to the shop which is within a few hundred metres?

We have to accept that people will do things out of self-interest but we shouldn’t accept that it overrides what is best and with their remit.
People will deal with situations financially and even if its inconvenient to them if they get something out of it. They will find a way. However outside of their bubble they really can't bring themselves to make much of an effort.

Ask them to give something up, pay more or god forbid be put out and fuck me they suddenly become the 'downtrodden'

This isn't new it's probably instinctively in all.of us. It's the denial and mental gymnastics they go through to try and prove they are in fact a sound bloke.

Even on a football forum where people generally don't know each other.
 
It's the denial and mental gymnastics they go through to try and prove they are in fact a sound bloke.

Even on a football forum where people generally don't know each other.

Did it ever cross your mind that they are infact normal, sound blokes, and that you are the one on a mission ?
 
Did it ever cross your mind that they are infact normal, sound blokes, and that you are the one on a mission ?
What mission would that be? I believe I haven't told a single poster what they should or shouldn't do it's none of my business.

Unfortunately for you all your post does is confirm what I said. Whether you are deflecting or genuinely confused I couldn't say.
 
What mission would that be? I believe I haven't told a single poster what they should or shouldn't do it's none of my business.

Unfortunately for you all your post does is confirm what I said. Whether you are deflecting or genuinely confused I couldn't say.
There we go, not a hint of consideration of the original question.

Now we all know who it is that defines who is, or isn't a 'sound bloke'. Who, or what gave you that power ? ;-O
 
I mentioned previously i was looking at buying a van but need euro 6, I’m on lots of van groups on Facebook, seems Mr Khan is getting his way the amount of vans going up for sale is silly, poor bastards in London are losing thousands on perfectly good vans as no one seems to want euro 5 vans, I wonder why!
 
I mentioned previously i was looking at buying a van but need euro 6, I’m on lots of van groups on Facebook, seems Mr Khan is getting his way the amount of vans going up for sale is silly, poor bastards in London are losing thousands on perfectly good vans as no one seems to want euro 5 vans, I wonder why!
The stupid thing about the whole thing is that it's completely arbitrary. The technical difference between a Euro5 and a Euro6 engine isn't massive which is ironic when anyone quotes compliance. This also assumes that the vehicle manufacturers haven't cheated the tests and actually the technical emissions quoted are a complete load of bollocks anyway.

Pollution has obviously improved but Co2 associated transport emissions have barely changed over the last 40 years which proves that in terms of Co2 alone forcing the adoption of new engine technology is pointless. This isn't because the engines aren't better, it's because the engines are better however there are 100x more cars on the road.

We really should be helping people to go electric or use public transport but public transport will be on its arse for a long time so going electric is the only option. If I want to go into town today then I could take the bus instead of my car but the irony is the bus will pollute more than my electric car and cost more than a full charge!
 
The stupid thing about the whole thing is that it's completely arbitrary. The technical difference between a Euro5 and a Euro6 engine isn't massive which is ironic when anyone quotes compliance. This also assumes that the vehicle manufacturers haven't cheated the tests and actually the technical emissions quoted are a complete load of bollocks anyway.

Pollution has obviously improved but Co2 associated transport emissions have barely changed over the last 40 years which proves that in terms of Co2 alone forcing the adoption of new engine technology is pointless. This isn't because the engines aren't better, it's because the engines are better however there are 100x more cars on the road.

We really should be helping people to go electric or use public transport but public transport will be on its arse for a long time so going electric is the only option. If I want to go into town today then I could take the bus instead of my car but the irony is the bus will pollute more than my electric car and cost more than a full charge!
Apparently lots of vehicles are been qualified as non compliant by ULEZ actually are, you can go through your manufacturer to get it checked (for a fee obviously) this can then be sent on to get the database changed.
 

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