Lucas Paqueta investigated by FA for alleged betting breaches

ElMago_DSilva said:
If you look back at my posts... I haven't criticised Txiki personally once in this window.

I never said he was incompetent at his job, again point me to where I've said that?

Do I think we are too late with this one? Yes I do... But it doesn't mean I think our board are incompetent.

I've been telling people for months I'd only want to dip into the transfer market for players that are worth it, otherwise stick with what we have.

If Pep wants Paqueta, fair enough... But it will cost us over 80m and at that point... The realisation will kick in for our board that he isn't worth that and we just won't pay it.

So to summarize, I don't think we will get the player.
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How the hell are we late???
 
BlueHammer85 said:
I know full well the difference. There's very few West Ham players i would deem World Class - Rice was one of them.
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If you were picking a world XI would Rice be in the short list as DM? For me that's a firm no and therefore not world class. does he have the potential to improve in a better side and become world class then yes.
 
lionheart said:
Why are we even being mentioned for this player at such ridiculous price levels? If we need experienced midfield back-up, why not buy Ward-Prowse for under £40 million?
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blueparrot said:
He's going from Southampton to West Ham for a reason.
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Semper aggressus said:
Because he’s average on a good day. Two half decent free kicks a season and a lot of running about in a relegated team don’t make a £40m player.
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Blue and true said:
Because Ward-Prowse is toilet.
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Tugay One Cup said:
The difference in quality is reflected by the difference in price. No disrespect to Ward-Prowse.
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Per 90 PL stats comparison of Ward-Prowse and Paqueta.

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Paul1970 said:
Looks like this deal could be happening. Wanted him last season so this is great if we can pull it off
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Sky, Jacobs and Hirst all saying he's content and West Ham wont sell late. As said, it could be tactics or they just dont want to sell now. Cannot see West ham accepting anything below next summers clause.

Although, Steinberg, whos usually good with London media, says Paqueta is pushing for a move...
 
ElMago_DSilva said:
If you look back at my posts... I haven't criticised Txiki personally once in this window.

I never said he was incompetent at his job, again point me to where I've said that?

Do I think we are too late with this one? Yes I do... But it doesn't mean I think our board are incompetent.

I've been telling people for months I'd only want to dip into the transfer market for players that are worth it, otherwise stick with what we have.

If Pep wants Paqueta, fair enough... But it will cost us over 80m and at that point... The realisation will kick in for our board that he isn't worth that and we just won't pay it.

So to summarize, I don't think we will get the player.
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You haven't literally wrote the words, no. However your posts are implying it.

Why is it too late, weeks left of the transfer window. Too late is when the window is closed.

Right, thats your opinion, what has that got to do with anything being discussed here. Pep and City clearly think otherwise which is why we are putting in bids for players.

There is not a chance on earth that the relevant people sat in a room at the CFG and blindly sent an offer to West Ham without having any indication on prices etc.
 
richards30 said:
How the hell are we late???
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Because West Ham have started doing business far too late.

They were preparing to go into the season with Paqueta as one of their main men.

They have already lost Rice, to lose Paqueta on top of that could be too much change.

Looks like they are getting Ward Prowse and Edson Alvarez, but considering the tension already between Moyes and the West Ham board, I doubt they will want to sell Paqueta and further cause issues with manager/board relationship.

They have set a price that they will not sell for less than 85m and even if City match it there is still no guarantees they will accept it... But do you really think City are gonna pay 85m for Paqueta?


They wouldn't even pay that for Gvardiol and wouldn't even pay a full fee higher than 80m for Rice.

Don't see this one happening at all personally.
 
decmancity said:
You haven't literally wrote the words, no. However your posts are implying it.

Why is it too late, weeks left of the transfer window. Too late is when the window is closed.

Right, thats your opinion, what has that got to do with anything being discussed here. Pep and City clearly think otherwise which is why we are putting in bids for players.

There is not a chance on earth that the relevant people sat in a room at the CFG and blindly sent an offer to West Ham without having any indication on prices etc.
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They are clearly testing the water to see how much it would cost to sign him.

We did the same with Rice. Came onto the scene for 5 mins, bid 80m plus 10m add ons and then literally pulled out a few days later.

The same could happen with this one.

We will have to see what happens. If West Ham play hardball over the price and want over 85m, I can't see City paying it.
 
ElMago_DSilva said:
Not criticising Txiki by the way, but whatever makes you get more likes on a forum fella.

Just stating facts... There are players on the market that are far more attainable.

Can't see us going over 80m for him and West Ham ain't selling him for less than 80m.
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Attainable according only you, the truth is you don't know anything just like the rest of us on how to buy a player.
 
hello said:
If you were picking a world XI would Rice be in the short list as DM? For me that's a firm no and therefore not world class. does he have the potential to improve in a better side and become world class then yes.
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Yes from me. In the mix for sure.
 
ElMago_DSilva said:
They are clearly testing the water to see how much it would cost to sign him.

We did the same with Rice. Came onto the scene for 5 mins, bid 80m plus 10m add ons and then literally pulled out a few days later.

The same could happen with this one.

We will have to see what happens. If West Ham play hardball over the price and want over 85m, I can't see City paying it.
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The Rice situation was different. By all accounts we had been given encouragement to bid, we offered good terms to West Ham and thought they might be more favorable than Arsenal who were trying to put the lad on a Klarna payment plan.

Something then changed and Rice then made it clear he wanted Arsenal and that was that, we pulled out.
 
Kamaro011 said:
Attainable according only you, the truth is you don't know anything just like the rest of us on how to buy a player.
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I don't, but West Ham have stated the price and I'm only giving my opinion that I don't think we will match the price they want.
 
Strikes me as a similar deal to Dias this. Someone we've scouted for a while but didn't necessarily see as obtainable but an opportunity has presented itself and we're now looking into it.
 
decmancity said:
The Rice situation was different. By all accounts we had been given encouragement to bid, we offered good terms to West Ham and thought they might be more favorable than Arsenal who were trying to put the lad on a Klarna payment plan.

Something then changed and Rice then made it clear he wanted Arsenal and that was that, we pulled out.
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We were never going to pay 100m plus for Rice... Let's be serious now.
 
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