VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)

Would you want VAR scrapped?

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BlueHammer85 said:
Don't think drink driving is quite the same as a hair pull in a football match which without VAR would have gone unnoticed anyway. it won't from now on.
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As usual blue hammer you’ve missed the point. We’ve been explaining corruption & it’s different forms.I’d say like Mike Dean you’ve deliberately missed the point.
 
cheekybids said:
Forms of corruption below.
  • 4.1 Bribery.
  • 4.2 Embezzlement, theft and fraud.
  • 4.3 Graft.
  • 4.4 Extortion and blackmail.
  • 4.5 Influence peddling.
  • 4.6 Networking.
  • 4.7 Abuse of discretion.
  • 4.8 Favoritism, nepotism and clientelism.
It’s corrupt, very few are the expected brown envelopes.
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Right but I’m not sure any of those apply in this particular case.
 
BeerIsTheBest said:
Halfcentury

Bet you are faster than me. I’m a proper luddite

this link explains how AI was utilised at the WC

www.espn.co.uk

Semi-automated offside approved for World Cup

FIFA has approved the use of its new semi-automated VAR offside technology for the 2022 World Cup in Qatar.
www.espn.co.uk www.espn.co.uk
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Oh OK, I wasn't trying to be argumentative, I get how AI can evolve in the future, but SAOT isn't AI as far as I am concerned, it's just a clever piece of sodtware. I will be impressed if it ever starts thinking up new offside rules on its own, though :)

Let's face it, it couldn't do any worse .....
 
halfcenturyup said:
Oh OK, I wasn't trying to be argumentative, I get how AI can evolve in the future, but SAOT isn't AI as far as I am concerned, it's just a clever piece of sodtware. I will be impressed if it ever starts thinking up new offside rules on its own, though :)

Let's face it, it couldn't do any worse .....
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Mate- never took your post to be anything other than a legit question- certainly not argumentative. Discussion keeps the forum ticking. Keep posting. Xxx
 
halfcenturyup said:
Oh OK, I wasn't trying to be argumentative, I get how AI can evolve in the future, but SAOT isn't AI as far as I am concerned, it's just a clever piece of sodtware. I will be impressed if it ever starts thinking up new offside rules on its own, though :)

Let's face it, it couldn't do any worse .....
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if it helps as a developer i've made a few algorithmic features which have then been written by sales as AI. you have to take it with a grain of salt that ANYTHING can be exagerated to be 'AI assisted' if it uses enough 'creative marketing'

i'll leave that there but yes i agree SAOT is not AI but to some people they are indestinguishable from each other.
 
Kmezn said:
if it helps as a developer i've made a few algorithmic features which have then been written by sales as AI. you have to take it with a grain of salt that ANYTHING can be exagerated to be 'AI assisted' if it uses enough 'creative marketing'

i'll leave that there but yes i agree SAOT is not AI but to some people they are indestinguishable from each other.
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people get confused with ML, AI, GAI. SAOT falls into the AI category for many reasons
 
halfcenturyup said:
Not really the place for an AI thread, but it's interesting. Care to provide a few reasons?
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very quickly and a gross oversimplification off the top of my head:

an algorithm is a set of instructions done to achieve a task. think maths and scientific formulae.

multiple algorithms for arguments sake create a program in software allowing it topreform certian actions.

for machine learning and AI it depends where you want to draw the line.
e.g. a smart speaker (alexa, google home) isn't AI. it's taking an input usually voice 'play music' that then looks for key words play and music. if it doesn't understand my accent and only gets 'play' then it returns something like 'would you like to play a game' or similar.
if it understands 'music' it returns the function 'playing music on spotify'
where machine learning comes in it will take all of those voice clips by EVERYONE using it to say 'play music' comparing and contrasting accents and accuracy of responses as per an algorithmic feedback to define what a 'correct' response would be.

i can provide some info if you would like to know more =]


edit- excuse the long reply but it's a passion subject of mine and the term ai is normally used for simple things and people expect HAL9000 when they just get voice detection.
 
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