Agreed. For all the talk of fighting, I haven't seen much of it.
What I have seen is a series of sub-standard, half-assed displays that he laughed off.
I think the final straw for Pep was the Leicester game, where his introduction turned a comfortable 3-0 into a game where we were really hanging on.
Pep has said often enough, he doesn't want to be the player's mum nor dad. He doesn't feel responsible for motivational topics. Player's must be self motivated.
If Phillips doesn't show burning desire he lacks a basic key quality and it's his own problem when starting to "fight for his place" or not.
Btw, I must have missed the moment watching Kalvin fight in a City shirt. I saw him jogging across the pitch, smiling quite cute off it or walking his elephant boots though.
Pep wants to work with top attitude lads to get City to a different level compared to all the rest. That's why we are where we are now. Player's decision to join that road or not. They have to show Pep he can trust them or they won't play. That's no news. It's about Kalvin to deliver, not Pep.
People have been moaning about how much stick Phillips is getting in this forum and your post gets no reaction.Kalvin or Mason ; which will be first to find a new club ?
I remember Denis Leman. He was always on the team photos at that time. I also remember standing on the scoreboard end or the Clairmont Road end before it was the North Stand. When the North Stand was completed , City used to do first team updates on the scoreboard. How times have changed. Less is more, somehow.Yes little fella. Right winger. As a young ladI thought he was great. We had another little one called Denis Leman . Used to enjoy it. Think they used to put first team score updates on the scoreboard ?
The problem as previously stated he is, and indeed was never good enough. A huge mistake to buy him and it may be an even bigger one to keep him. Pep lost the head because apparently he went to New York on the piss after the WC when a wiser man would have headed straight back to Manchester. As I have said before and will say no more better for all concerned if he finds a new home.I appreciate what you're saying and agree with pretty much all of it.
My concern is more around the way that Pep publicly and very ruthlessly called him out for being overweight and has since shown little or no faith in the lad, leading to very public ridicule. That's poor man management in my book.
Yes, it's an employee''s responsibility to get their head right and knuckle down to the challenge. However, it doesn't help if their boss knocks them down at the first opportunity, and doesn't seem to care whether or not they can get up again.
Kalvin Phillips hasn't been given a decent chance to redeem himself, despite obvious opportunities in pre-season, the community shield and Burnley matches.
If he'd underperformed in decent runouts, then there'd be justification in fan criticism. As it stands, the lad hasn't been given a proper chance and as such, the level of fan abuse is imo completely unreasonable.
Phillips was England player of the year in a team that had kane, foden, grealish, rice and even maguire, the point I'm making is because he decided to stay with his local team his most of his career you can't hold that against him. Medals arnt a fair representation of ability.KDB was Bundesliga player of the season, breaking their assists record in the process and also won a domestic cup.
Rodri was a mainstay in a team that finished 2nd in La Liga and won the UEFA Super Cup.
Phillips won the Championship.
The problem as previously stated he is, and indeed was never good enough. A huge mistake to buy him and it may be an even bigger one to keep him. Pep lost the head because apparently he went to New York on the piss after the WC when a wiser man would have headed straight back to Manchester. As I have said before and will say no more better for all concerned if he finds a new home.
I think you're missing it's everyday training where players earn their shirt to start the next match or not.I appreciate what you're saying and agree with pretty much all of it.
My concern is more around the way that Pep publicly and very ruthlessly called him out for being overweight and has since shown little or no faith in the lad, leading to very public ridicule. That's poor man management in my book.
Yes, it's an employee''s responsibility to get their head right and knuckle down to the challenge. However, it doesn't help if their boss knocks them down at the first opportunity, and doesn't seem to care whether or not they can get up again.
Kalvin Phillips hasn't been given a decent chance to redeem himself, despite obvious opportunities in pre-season, the community shield and Burnley matches.
If he'd underperformed in decent runouts, then there'd be justification in fan criticism. As it stands, the lad hasn't been given a proper chance and as such, the level of fan abuse is imo completely unreasonable.
Mount!People have been moaning about how much stick Phillips is getting in this forum and your post gets no reaction.
Comparing Phillips to Greenwood is an utterly cuntish thing to do.
I think it was the fact he was signed as cover, but wasn't available when needed, he had a shoulder issue which the club decided needed surgery then he returned just in time to head off to the world cup then he returned in less then ideal condition. Pep was frustrated which I understand and I think the returning carrying abit of extra weight was the final straw pep has lost faith in him.I appreciate what you're saying and agree with pretty much all of it.
My concern is more around the way that Pep publicly and very ruthlessly called him out for being overweight and has since shown little or no faith in the lad, leading to very public ridicule. That's poor man management in my book.
Yes, it's an employee''s responsibility to get their head right and knuckle down to the challenge. However, it doesn't help if their boss knocks them down at the first opportunity, and doesn't seem to care whether or not they can get up again.
Kalvin Phillips hasn't been given a decent chance to redeem himself, despite obvious opportunities in pre-season, the community shield and Burnley matches.
If he'd underperformed in decent runouts, then there'd be justification in fan criticism. As it stands, the lad hasn't been given a proper chance and as such, the level of fan abuse is imo completely unreasonable.
Two weeks ago, this was my mantra & I'd have agreed with you 100%. HOWEVER, Rodri's interview changed all that.I appreciate what you're saying and agree with pretty much all of it.
My concern is more around the way that Pep publicly and very ruthlessly called him out for being overweight and has since shown little or no faith in the lad, leading to very public ridicule. That's poor man management in my book.
Yes, it's an employee''s responsibility to get their head right and knuckle down to the challenge. However, it doesn't help if their boss knocks them down at the first opportunity, and doesn't seem to care whether or not they can get up again.
Kalvin Phillips hasn't been given a decent chance to redeem himself, despite obvious opportunities in pre-season, the community shield and Burnley matches.
If he'd underperformed in decent runouts, then there'd be justification in fan criticism. As it stands, the lad hasn't been given a proper chance and as such, the level of fan abuse is imo completely unreasonable.
Unlikely given he can’t play for another club this season.Mount!
Got really giddy when the new North Stand was being built, think the first time it opened was around Christmas 70. Played Huddersfield I think, only the lower terrace was open. Went to the match with my brother & his brother in law, Roberto, an Italian lad who was over for the holidays. He was an AC supporter, bet he was overawed by Maine Road & our massive floodlights et al, San Siro? no thanks. Pity he never returned to see the completed job, featuring our state of the art, Bolton built, electronic scoreboard. We've always led the way.I remember Denis Leman. He was always on the team photos at that time. I also remember standing on the scoreboard end or the Clairmont Road end before it was the North Stand. When the North Stand was completed , City used to do first team updates on the scoreboard. How times have changed. Less is more, somehow.
He's had a disappointing time at City but I'm sure a move to Anfield would revive his career and he'd soon be the best in the world in his position along with his ten new team mates. Unless he developed asthma from spending too ;ong in the damp Manchester air.I see dipper links again.
£70m minimum to the cult/cunts
Personally I wouldn’t sell them a cold.
The hacking, the bricking and the letter writing to name a few reasons and they’re their best qualities.
I've still not managed to see this interview thanks to the amount of alcohol consumed at the game. What did Rodri say?Two weeks ago, this was my mantra & I'd have agreed with you 100%. HOWEVER, Rodri's interview changed all that.
Twenty minutes before the end of the Newcastle game, Rodri looked fucked, & it seriously worried me that Pep would rather risk Rodders breaking down, than bringing on his CDM competition/rotation team mate Kalvin Philips.
It's with a heavy heart & massive disappointment that I've been forced to admit that it looks very evident that Manchester City have lost faith in Kalvin ever making it here, so would be happy for him to rebuild his career elsewhere.
Southgate could be key to this. If he makes it clear to Philips that his England squad inclusion is under threat, this might just be enough for him to start looking at alternative career options.
He’d become world class in the eyes of the media just by leaving big bad City and joining the plucky underdog dippers.He's had a disappointing time at City but I'm sure a move to Anfield would revive his career and he'd soon be the best in the world in his position along with his ten new team mates. Unless he developed asthma from spending too ;ong in the damp Manchester air.
I see dipper links again.
£70m minimum to the cult/cunts
Personally I wouldn’t sell them a cold.
The hacking, the bricking and the letter writing to name a few reasons and they’re their best qualities.
All of which suggests poor/inadequate research etc by the club in advance of Kalvin Phillips transfer from Leeds.I think you're missing it's everyday training where players earn their shirt to start the next match or not.
We never see that, Pep does! Pep and his staff are watching how they move, behave, talk, when they arrive and leave, physios know any single muscle and blood status.
We only see the end product of this perfectly managed organization on the pitch. And are blessed. Like many neutral fans.
We also should take for granted all the rules for players are made very clear upfront. We are on the historical mission to be the 1st PL club to win 4 on the trot. Everyone is expected to give more than 100%.
There is no point of what you call man-management, not for Pep. If a player doesn't offer what's requested he won't play, full stop.
It took me some time to understand that Pep doesn't want the role of a motivational coach for players, like we traditionally know it from sports managers. Pep starts one level above all that to get to the very top. He simply doesn't have the time, nor energy or interest to convince some player to be great.
That's why we have started to only sign players who already have the personality that's needed to work with Pep on a fascinating level.
Would be like Sancho all over again - the ultimate hype job based purely on him leaving City.He’d become world class in the eyes of the media just by leaving big bad City and joining the plucky underdog dippers.