Running thread

[staffsblue]

just had a look, it actually looks lovely

It was, apart from there being far too many sprogs there today. At least the lengths lane was nice and quiet!

 

[Bluey91]

I'm 5 weeks into Marathon training for London in April '24. My long run on the weekend is up to 8 miles which the lungs and legs are ok with. The issue I have is that from 5 miles onwards in every run I have done so far is that my middle toe on my right foot stings like mad and feels like I have a cramp of sorts. I have wide'ish feet so bought trainers with a wide toe box (Altras) which has made f' all difference. The only way I can relieve the pain is to take my shoe off and stretch my toes up and down repeatedly for a couple of minutes and then it subsides for another couple of KM's. Does anyone have any advice?

 

[staffsblue]

i thought the kids were back at school,it was quiet at first then it started filling up with the screaming splashing sods,how dare they have fun in the summer :)

Which pool did you go to? When I'm in Manchester I normally go to the Aquatics Centre. The 50m length scares off the kids, and when they put the divider up in the middle, they keep the 25m section for "swim for fitness" and the 23m bit for kids dicking about.

 

[Manchester33]

What's everyones thoughts on upping mileage/kms over more shorter runs for increasing speed and endurance?

Struggling to fit in a run every day as pop in a walk and gym sessions (either weights or yoga classes) but started adding a Weds eve 12k (which I want to increase now my running mojo is slowly returning).

Can't make the track intervals atm (also on a weds) but a return to those eventually will help.

So at the moment, I do Saturday 5k Park Run, a Monday evening run (6k) and this mid week 12.

Still nursing long term hamstring issue too which will need a thorough look at soon.

This last sentence is important.

You need to be conscious of your 'accumulative load' (I think that's the right term lol). If you're running 21k per week with gym sessions too, you need to be careful increasing that too quickly - or risk a further injury.

Don't go from 12k to 15k for example, build yourself up week by week adding 1k or something like that.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

As it happens, the running club do a hill session the first weds of each month.
I'll jump on this weeks.

Thanks!

be worth it in the long run!

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

I'm 5 weeks into Marathon training for London in April '24. My long run on the weekend is up to 8 miles which the lungs and legs are ok with. The issue I have is that from 5 miles onwards in every run I have done so far is that my middle toe on my right foot stings like mad and feels like I have a cramp of sorts. I have wide'ish feet so bought trainers with a wide toe box (Altras) which has made f' all difference. The only way I can relieve the pain is to take my shoe off and stretch my toes up and down repeatedly for a couple of minutes and then it subsides for another couple of KM's. Does anyone have any advice?

potentially worth strapping the toe?

 

[Sir peace frog]

Which pool did you go to? When I'm in Manchester I normally go to the Aquatics Centre. The 50m length scares off the kids, and when they put the divider up in the middle, they keep the 25m section for "swim for fitness" and the 23m bit for kids dicking about.

Cheadle baths, it's 5 minutes away

 

[somapop]

This last sentence is important.

You need to be conscious of your 'accumulative load' (I think that's the right term lol). If you're running 21k per week with gym sessions too, you need to be careful increasing that too quickly - or risk a further injury.

Don't go from 12k to 15k for example, build yourself up week by week adding 1k or something like that.

I’ve a feeling if I see a physio I’ll be asked to cease all pressure on it (or potential operation).
I actually feel it more in yoga as I can’t fully bend the right leg (the left is super flexible).
Hits a point where I can’t bend it any further (tight with pain).

With running it tends to be less pronounced but after nearly a year it’s clear it won’t heal in its own (& I dread having to stop training for my own well being sake).

 

[Stuuuuuu]

What's everyones thoughts on upping mileage/kms over more shorter runs for increasing speed and endurance?

Just do whichever is your favourite! Either approach will do you good.

 

[Manchester33]

I love this weather, but it's a bastard to run in! Bring on the chilly months!

 

[staffsblue]

I love this weather, but it's a bastard to run in! Bring on the chilly months!

Went out for a walk to the shops on Sunday at 1pm and there were loads of people out running in 25°C heat. Are they gluttons for punishment, mad or just incapable of getting up when it's cooler or waiting for the evening?
I was sweating buckets just walking, so running in that heat is just insane.

 

[ob]

Went out for a walk to the shops on Sunday at 1pm and there were loads of people out running in 25°C heat. Are they gluttons for punishment, mad or just incapable of getting up when it's cooler or waiting for the evening?
I was sweating buckets just walking, so running in that heat is just insane.

I'm in holiday in Nice, contemplated bringing my running stuff. It was 25 degrees at 7.30 this morning when I woke so glad didn't bring it lol. Just beer, wine, cocktails and food for week with couple days swimming in the sea

 

[Manchester33]

My season best 5k today... 22:51!

2 months ago 5k took me 30 minutes. Really happy with the progress.

 

[Sir peace frog]

My season best 5k today... 22:51!

2 months ago 5k took me 30 minutes. Really happy with the progress.

now im back running ive had to go back a few weeks, so im on week 3, however ive upped my paced to 10km to get me up to speed for a 30 minute 5k, that's my new goal, well done on 22:51, surely now you will be aim for under 22:30 :)

 

[Manchester33]

now im back running ive had to go back a few weeks, so im on week 3, however ive upped my paced to 10km to get me up to speed for a 30 minute 5k, that's my new goal, well done on 22:51, surely now you will be aim for under 22:30 :)

Good luck with 30 mins. It’s crazy how quickly you can improve fitness when you go for it!

Yep! I want to get under 22:30 on the next one. I really need to sort out my pace, my km breakdown today was:

1 - 4:16
2 - 4:32
3 - 4:35
4 - 4:41
5 - 4:46

So I might sacrifice speed for a more balanced run. Thinking of doing one of those progression runs were each km has to be quicker than the last.

 

[willipp]

Good luck with 30 mins. It’s crazy how quickly you can improve fitness when you go for it!

Yep! I want to get under 22:30 on the next one. I really need to sort out my pace, my km breakdown today was:

1 - 4:16
2 - 4:32
3 - 4:35
4 - 4:41
5 - 4:46

So I might sacrifice speed for a more balanced run. Thinking of doing one of those progression runs were each km has to be quicker than the last.

5ks I’ve always found hard to pace. It’s such a short distance you really don’t have much chance to make up any slowish k’s at the start. You have to go out pretty hard to give yourself the chance of a good time, but push too hard and then by k 5 you’re on your arse.

 

[franksinatra]

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Went out for a walk to the shops on Sunday at 1pm and there were loads of people out running in 25°C heat. Are they gluttons for punishment, mad or just incapable of getting up when it's cooler or waiting for the evening?
I was sweating buckets just walking, so running in that heat is just insane.

I am away on holiday and although I have managed a bit of running, in high temps, its completely knocked the stuffing out of me today.

In winter I suffer with terrible circulation so always have freezing hands and in summer, when running, I lose buckets in sweat and so lose valuable salts. Im pretty much only fit to run for about 5 months of the year.

 

[franksinatra]

Good luck with 30 mins. It’s crazy how quickly you can improve fitness when you go for it!

Yep! I want to get under 22:30 on the next one. I really need to sort out my pace, my km breakdown today was:

1 - 4:16
2 - 4:32
3 - 4:35
4 - 4:41
5 - 4:46

So I might sacrifice speed for a more balanced run. Thinking of doing one of those progression runs were each km has to be quicker than the last.

Sounds like a plan. Quite a bit of variation in your splits there. Long runs, at a slow pace, build up your aerobic capacity and would make a huge difference.

It is a misnomer to think you only need to ‘go long’ for Half and Marathon training. 800 metre runners train by running up to 16 miles and above in a session.

 

[staffsblue]

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I am away on holiday and although I have managed a bit of running, in high temps, its completely knocked the stuffing out of me today.

In winter I suffer with terrible circulation so always have freezing hands and in summer, when running, I lose buckets in sweat and so lose valuable salts. Im pretty much only fit to run for about 5 months of the year.

I suffer from poor circulation to my extremities in cold weather. My feet, nose & ears sort themselves out once I've warmed up, but have to wear gloves running in temperatures below about 5°C.
My sweating is profuse whatever the temperature but especially bad in the summer, and never venture out running without a water bottle.

 

[franksinatra]

I suffer from poor circulation to my extremities in cold weather. My feet, nose & ears sort themselves out once I've warmed up, but have to wear gloves running in temperatures below about 5°C.
My sweating is profuse whatever the temperature but especially bad in the summer, and never venture out running without a water bottle.

Very similar to myself. We got dealt a tough hand for a runner.

Funny for me its just my hands. At the back end of last winter I invested in some Raynauds gloves which contain a silver thread. They seemed to Improve things but will put them through a proper test this winter.

I always get a sweat on running. I run with a mate occasionally in trail races and he will not bother with liquid for up to a half marathon, where as Im laden down with a running hydration vests and 2x 500ml water bottles. Very frustrating.