PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Alan Harper's Tash said:
He’s said nothing that Stefan didn’t 6 months ago.

He brings a secondary school teacher approach to it, and a few bizarre analogies, but Stefan’s Spaces breakdown was far more insightful.
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The only new element appears to be the suggestion that the PL will not be able to get away with accusing us of non-co-operation and allowing the smear to carry because the charges are too serious and have to be proven. That’s good news if true. The Pl can’t continue to hide behind a complicit media.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
He’s said nothing that Stefan didn’t 6 months ago.

He brings a secondary school teacher approach to it, and a few bizarre analogies, but Stefan’s Spaces breakdown was far more insightful.
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What I think it is is the difference between Micah and Neds; one is easy to follow and the other to make your brain think.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
The only new element appears to be the suggestion that the PL will not be able to get away with accusing us of non-co-operation and allowing the smear to carry because the charges are too serious and have to be proven. That’s good news if true. The Pl can’t continue to hide behind a complicit media.
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It may be "new" but I am not sure it makes much sense. It comes from the two Sheffield professors I suppose, quoted in the MEN. I wasn't sure what they meant by "non-cooperation won't be enough". Enough for who? Those clubs who want to "mutiny"? Not sure that is of any import. The process is in place, the panel will review each of the alleged breaches and pass judgment. Most likely to me the most serious charges won't be proven, some non-disclosures will, in their opinion, be proven, and very likely non-cooperation will be.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
The only new element appears to be the suggestion that the PL will not be able to get away with accusing us of non-co-operation and allowing the smear to carry because the charges are too serious and have to be proven. That’s good news if true. The Pl can’t continue to hide behind a complicit media.
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Yeah, although Stefan was initially shocked with the charges, if you remember, as they were basically accusing us of fraudulent accounting.

Therefore they’d either need a whistleblower or new evidence not seen at CAS.

The case isn’t with the PL anymore. They, like the rest of us, are waiting for the result of the appeal.
 
When the 115 charges are demolished the insistance of the red cartel premier league clubs pressure would have done its job , the jumped up charges may go away but the smear campaign will never stop , the media need the Rags & Dippers back at the top and will stoop to any levels to bring this about.
Its all part of being a supremely succesful and dominant club , jealousy and envy in abundance from plastic fans of these clubs , but what they are missing is the rapid progress and growth of City this really is unstoppable , we are now alongside the likes of Real , Barca , Bayern , Rags , Dippers in financial terms and far ahead on the field of play.
Success breeds hate and vitriol from your chllengers a small price to pay for halycon day we are enjoying , the 115 charges are a small bump in the road to our destiny , the best football club in the world , we have a song about it , a song we sang when we were in the third tier of football not that long ago.
 
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Pablo ZZZ Peroni said:
Thoughts? @projectriver

If you've not seen, here is the the link to the document referred to in the video.


NB As others have said, you seem to have covered all this before on spaces, your article and podcasts.
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he has , but this lad puts it at a level most people who haven't read bluemoon in the picture, any information however little is sort of helpful, and if that information is put in a way the average person can understand then im all for it, when i read some of the stuff on here,im thinking what have i just read :)
 
Sir peace frog said:
he has , but this lad puts it at a level most people who haven't read bluemoon in the picture, any information however little is sort of helpful, and if that information is put in a way the average person can understand then im all for it, when i read some of the stuff on here,im thinking what have i just read :)
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Spot on Spf.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
I suggested that a while ago. There’ll be no new information until we hear the result.

Stefan and Colin have both released the most concise breakdown of what has happened and what is likely to happen.

I’ve nothing against the bloke. I hope he earns enough to keep doing what he does, but it’s a slightly more informal, dumbed down version of what is already out there.
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I’ve been following him and I believe he has great potential. Very articulate and knowledgable. There are some good boys on YouTube and he is another one. We can’t have too much access to YouTubers putting it out there for us all to enjoy.
I say let’s all subscribe to these fellows and help to knock Goldbridge off his Manure perch.
 
By the way, where does this narrative come from that if the club isn't found guilty, then that is the end of FFP? Surely, if we aren't found guilty that means we complied with their FFP which is what they wanted? Could it be that, now certain clubs are struggling with FFP, they are looking at any excuse to make it more "acceptable" or make one final suicidal push for an ESL? Otherwise I don't get it.
 
Sir peace frog said:
he has , but this lad puts it at a level most people who haven't read bluemoon in the picture, any information however little is sort of helpful, and if that information is put in a way the average person can understand then im all for it, when i read some of the stuff on here,im thinking what have i just read :)
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Come again?
 
Pablo ZZZ Peroni said:
Thoughts on the document he refers to (not the video)? @projectriver

If you've not seen, here is the link:


NB As others have said, you seem to have covered all this before on spaces, your article and podcasts.
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Having read it, it looks like the video is based on the MEN article, rather than the full document.

I may be wrong, but it's certainly not as positive as the article or video.

Throughout, they do suggest that the bar is high for the Premier League, but they also suggest that it may be a lot more of a challenge for City than the UEFA case, and conclude by summing up City's position, "Put simply, defending this claim would require the deployment of enormous resources, intuitive legal reasoning, and persuasion beyond known boundaries." Which doesn't sound particularly easy.
 
bluenova said:
Having read it, it looks like the video is based on the MEN article, rather than the full document.

I may be wrong, but it's certainly not as positive as the article or video.

Throughout, they do suggest that the bar is high for the Premier League, but they also suggest that it may be a lot more of a challenge for City than the UEFA case, and conclude by summing up City's position, "Put simply, defending this claim would require the deployment of enormous resources, intuitive legal reasoning, and persuasion beyond known boundaries." Which doesn't sound particularly easy.
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Yes, I agree.
I would be surprised if it was hugely positive as that would suggest that the authors believe that the PL have a weak case. As they know no more than we do, they couldn't say that.
 
bluenova said:
Having read it, it looks like the video is based on the MEN article, rather than the full document.

I may be wrong, but it's certainly not as positive as the article or video.

Throughout, they do suggest that the bar is high for the Premier League, but they also suggest that it may be a lot more of a challenge for City than the UEFA case, and conclude by summing up City's position, "Put simply, defending this claim would require the deployment of enormous resources, intuitive legal reasoning, and persuasion beyond known boundaries." Which doesn't sound particularly easy.
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You are not wrong. I read it and thought these guys think we have next to no chance, which suggests they think the PL can prove unequivocally we have done wrong, which is no mean feat.

How they know this without detailed access to the specific proof the allegations are true I can’t begin to understand and is one for @projectriver

Just goes to show that if you only read the headline you can get completely the wrong end of the stick. I’m more worried about the outcome now than I was before reading the full document which is the opposite of what the guy in the video is saying.

The thing that gives me most hope is how angry and confident Khaldoon is but then perhaps that’s his job…to keep us all positive with our eyes firmly on the prize.
 
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