PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[mancity2012_eamo]

It is not a good piece. It makes a big song and dance about standard of proof but it is wrong (there is a specific rule expressly saying what the standard is in the PL Rules. It is balance of probabilities. The rest of it doesn't seem to advance the discussion at all in my view. So I thought it was a bit odd especially on standard of proof.

Haven’t read the piece you are referring to and won’t either, but balance of probabilities is the one thing that slightly worries me in all of this.
I still can’t see how any probability can be proven by the PL. I find it highly improbable, but the sway can be as narrow as 51-49 for a decision to be made.
You can see how the process can be, let’s say, tampered with with a three man committee and their own laws and regulations.
It’s more a lack of trust on my part for the process.

If it were the law courts and this was merely the difference in proof required between the civic and criminal courts, I would not be as worried.


Personally though, I still see this long drawn out smear campaign as the real purpose of the process.
No smoke without fire, etc etc.
if so though, it seems to have backfired.

 

[bakerdave76]

Rui Pinto, loads of scouse scum singing the criminal's praise.https://twitter.com/FootballTalkHQ/status/1701462190891360576?t=zWAJ-zjDGJEcj0dg2by10g&s=19

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

My main take on all of this is that football has moved on at a huge rate over the last 15 years, the teams with most money were always the ones at the top and it was always going to be the case, however football clubs were mostly run by football people. The rags and a couple of others got a jump on everyone else by becoming more of a business than a conventional club, however at heart they merely had competent business men running them.
All of a sudden we rocked up with a whole new level of business knowledge, our guys had a clear plan that was so far ahead of the curve of other clubs that they have been left trailing in our wake. And of course the only way the other clubs and fans can come to terms with this is that we must have cheated. It is now their comfort blanket that they rely on. In reality I suspect when the hearing takes place we will be proven to have complied with the rules completely. Maybe not in the way that other do but completely legal .

If our owners sold up today they'd probably walk away with anywhere between £500m and £1bn pure profit.

The "sportswashing" critics have always missed this basic point, and missed it so badly that it's blinded them to what is really happening at City.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Haven’t read the piece you are referring to and won’t either, but balance of probabilities is the one thing that slightly worries me in all of this.
I still can’t see how any probability can be proven by the PL. I find it highly improbable, but the sway can be as narrow as 51-49 for a decision to be made.
You can see how the process can be, let’s say, tampered with with a three man committee and their own laws and regulations.
It’s more a lack of trust on my part for the process.

If it were the law courts and this was merely the difference in proof required between the civic and criminal courts, I would not be as worried.


Personally though, I still see this long drawn out smear campaign as the real purpose of the process.
No smoke without fire, etc etc.
if so though, it seems to have backfired.

However, if Tolmie is correct and Pep is going to stay until we’re absolved, we might want the tribunal to take the next 40 years.

 

[Centurions]

Rui Pinto, loads of scouse scum singing the criminal's praise.https://twitter.com/FootballTalkHQ/status/1701462190891360576?t=zWAJ-zjDGJEcj0dg2by10g&s=19

Seriously, why post that. Does anyone actually care what some random dick on Twitter thinks?

 

[Centurions]

Haven’t read the piece you are referring to and won’t either, but balance of probabilities is the one thing that slightly worries me in all of this.
I still can’t see how any probability can be proven by the PL. I find it highly improbable, but the sway can be as narrow as 51-49 for a decision to be made.
You can see how the process can be, let’s say, tampered with with a three man committee and their own laws and regulations.
It’s more a lack of trust on my part for the process.

If it were the law courts and this was merely the difference in proof required between the civic and criminal courts, I would not be as worried.


Personally though, I still see this long drawn out smear campaign as the real purpose of the process.
No smoke without fire, etc etc.
if so though, it seems to have backfired.

It obviously can't be 51-49 as there's only three of them but what I can guarantee with no proof whatsoever is that there will be no "tampering".

Long drawn out? Definitely, but I've got no worries on the result no matter how long it takes.

 

[The Lightbowne Cowboy]

I support Everton, but I don't think City have done anything wrong. Your post is spot on. You have done it through hard work and the rewards have come, fair play to you for it. Those who cry arse the most are the ones who think they have a divine right to win everything, mainly two teams who play in red. Stuff them! Good luck to your team and I hope the charges are laughed out and leave certain teams to cry arse some more.

You're a dude! :)

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

If our owners sold up today they'd probably walk away with anywhere between £500m and £1bn pure profit.

The "sportswashing" critics have always missed this basic point, and missed it so badly that it's blinded them to what is really happening at City.

None so blind as those who do not want to see .

 

[adr2.8i]

If our owners sold up today they'd probably walk away with anywhere between £500m and £1bn pure profit.

The "sportswashing" critics have always missed this basic point, and missed it so badly that it's blinded them to what is really happening at City.

charge number 116 "blinding critics" :-) Blindwashing.

 

[SilverFox2]

If our owners sold up today they'd probably walk away with anywhere between £500m and £1bn pure profit.

The "sportswashing" critics have always missed this basic point, and missed it so badly that it's blinded them to what is really happening at City.

The investment has been successful much to the red shirts dismay.
Our sponsors and whatever reason they had to back the owners investment must be delighted.

 

[Dannyblue52]

It obviously can't be 51-49 as there's only three of them but what I can guarantee with no proof whatsoever is that there will be no "tampering".

Long drawn out? Definitely, but I've got no worries on the result no matter how long it takes.

Absolutely. A balance of probability is based on the evidence provided.The Premier League must prove that their case is true and their information and documents must show that breaches of the rules actually occurred. This would be at odds with the certified accounts that the club will produce, so it is difficult to see how they can prove their case.

 

[bakerdave76]

Seriously, why post that. Does anyone actually care what some random dick on Twitter thinks?

Thought it had something to do with the situation we are in now .

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

The investment has been successful much to the red shirts dismay.
Our sponsors and whatever reason they had to back the owners investment must be delighted.

Like people moaning at the time about how much Yaya or Kev or Silva cost. You look back and you think what a bargain. The Etihad marketing lads must thank their stars they've got a direct in to the CFG, and some people think Etihad are doing the football team a favour.

 

[Winchester]

Thicko here...
Can someone explain
What bearing does the suspension jail sentence have on City and the FFP Situation now?

 

[bluemonkey71]

Thicko here...
Can someone explain
What bearing does the suspension jail sentence have on City and the FFP Situation now?

Zero

 

[Rory Bluelow]

Over 10 years ago I was wearing a City track suit top on a Sunday morning in Perth getting a lecture from some no mark Aussie ( Italian descent ) stranger who felt it was his business to tell me my clubs a disgrace & the ruination of football. His kids were in Rag kits.

He got told to fuck off!

I started seeing kids in City outnumbering other clubs & then the drip drip shithousery started & you stopped seeing the glory hunters jump on board. My kids suddenly getting called plastic despite being 4th generation blues from some **** who couldn’t point at Liverpool on a map.

This was always part of their strategy.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

The investment has been successful much to the red shirts dismay.
Our sponsors and whatever reason they had to back the owners investment must be delighted.

Example the CFA cost £200 to build hasn’t it raised over £400 million in transfer fees since it’s creation. So more than paid for itself. City are a supremely well run football club.

 

[Winchester]

Zero

Aha so I guess no further on really

 

[crazyg]

what I've said has nothing to do with "taking it on the chin". We will probably have to do even better than we did at CAS because the Prem have clearly gone for the jugular with us.

We don't know what the outcome will be. We are paying for the best lawyers but are facing a biased rather than independent committee.

We should have obtained the services of this barrister rather than Lord Pannick - he appears to be better suited if dealing with vampires:
Barrister Details - Mr Paul Richard Garlick KC - Bar …

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Aha so I guess no further on really

PL still searching for additional charges in a desperate attempt to save face :)