Wolves PL (A) | Post Match Discussion

It was pretty close with the points your raised. Honestly think we are no where close to our peak and these players are still gelling.

We have stream rolled any team even the Fulham game was not a drubbing just clinical when needed. Rodri is crucial but his absence is blessing in disguise as Phillips is showing why he never got a break so pressure now to secure a proper cover. Pep got challenge to make us tick without Rodri so I’m very intrigued how he will tackle this with an in form Arsenal. They will take better advantage than Wolves so nervous at same times too.

This post is good coverage on Phillips -



And it also shows the importance of Rodri's role on the team at linking the play and how complex that role is. Phillips main strengths appear to be ball winning and giving the ball to someone else. Not dictating the game.


I'm curious about this week's games as they present a different challenge. We won't be facing a deep block. Having Bernardo or Stones back would be a big positive.
 
Not at all. I just wish we wouldn't be so slow and mechanical away from the Etihad. Since the start of last season we've scored more than once in less than 40% of our away matches and that number gets much worse against what would be considered top sides...We won twice, drew 3, and lost 4 in the Prem v. the 9 other top half of the table clubs away scoring 1 or less 6 times, 11 goals total. We won 8 and lost once v. those same teams at home, scoring 29 times. In the CL v. Sevilla, Dortmund, Copenhagen, Leipzig, Bayern, and RM we were a perfect 6-0-0 with 24 goals scored at home. 1-5-0 away with 7 goals scored. Stark differences. We are absolute monsters at the Etihad and a very good squad away with more flat performances than maybe we should have...

If it works then why change it away from home, It was just a bad day at the office and we always have them from time to time, What I did notice in the after-match interview at Newcastle I think it was. Pep said we have had no time to train and work on things, the Newcastle game finished late then the drive home into Thursday and back in for a warm-down and then back Friday morning,

It's a positive reaction we all want to see by the team in the Champions League game then Arsenal away, then let us see how well we have done.
 
This post is good coverage on Phillips -



And it also shows the importance of Rodri's role on the team at linking the play and how complex that role is. Phillips main strengths appear to be ball winning and giving the ball to someone else. Not dictating the game.


I'm curious about this week's games as they present a different challenge. We won't be facing a deep block. Having Bernardo or Stones back would be a big positive.


I think if John Stones was fit then missing Rodri would not stand out so much, I also think Josko Gvardiol could play that role in the middle
 
Well said. Our ‘poor’ away form is hardly ever discussed as the fact we are so good at home and usually end up winning the league masks over it. It’s certainly worth discussing though.
Yes, as I said we're a very good side away but nowhere near the side we are at home. Most teams are better at home but our disparity is large enough to be addressed. For me it's mostly due to how much slower we play away from the Etihad. The speed of play in possession goes down dramatically...hopefully we can navigate our way through these next two matches and come back from the break missing only KDB.
 
This post is good coverage on Phillips -



And it also shows the importance of Rodri's role on the team at linking the play and how complex that role is. Phillips main strengths appear to be ball winning and giving the ball to someone else. Not dictating the game.


I'm curious about this week's games as they present a different challenge. We won't be facing a deep block. Having Bernardo or Stones back would be a big positive.

Thanks for sharing that video. Phillips is not bad player just not suitable for role. Pace is something he doesn’t have and is slow that could be down to lack of rhythm and playing time.
 
Yes, as I said we're a very good side away but nowhere near the side we are at home. Most teams are better at home but our disparity is large enough to be addressed. For me it's mostly due to how much slower we play away from the Etihad. The speed of play in possession goes down dramatically...hopefully we can navigate our way through these next two matches and come back from the break missing only KDB.
I think pitch is something that impacts our game. Certain pitches interrupts the flow of the game at the champions league final.
 
Yes, as I said we're a very good side away but nowhere near the side we are at home. Most teams are better at home but our disparity is large enough to be addressed. For me it's mostly due to how much slower we play away from the Etihad. The speed of play in possession goes down dramatically...hopefully we can navigate our way through these next two matches and come back from the break missing only KDB
Hmm this is a strange point to make.

Only twice in the last six years have City not had the best away record, they still won the league in one of them (last year) and came 2nd in the other (Liverpool won it during Covid).

What exactly are you expecting our record to look like? I'd imagine no club in history has ever won the league having a better away record than at home.
 
If Nunes lacks the character to ignore jeering former fans, he's probably not the type to stand up to real pressure. For God's sake, don't trust him with a penalty.
Weak mentality will always let you down.
I think it was more that Nunes presence was creating a more hostile atmosphere for the rest. He looked OK when he was on. He's only beeb working with Pep a few weeks.
 
I think it was more that Nunes presence was creating a more hostile atmosphere for the rest. He looked OK when he was on. He's only beeb working with Pep a few weeks.
I didn't think he was effective at all on Saturday. However, totally agree with fact he's only been here a few weeks. May not see brilliant things from him until the 2nd half of the season.
 
This post is good coverage on Phillips -



And it also shows the importance of Rodri's role on the team at linking the play and how complex that role is. Phillips main strengths appear to be ball winning and giving the ball to someone else. Not dictating the game.


I'm curious about this week's games as they present a different challenge. We won't be facing a deep block. Having Bernardo or Stones back would be a big positive.

The genius of Rodri is that he plays a position that most football teams would need two players for. He breaks up play, always provides an outlet for a pass, and creatively starts and joins in with the attacks. He's basically doing what Silva and Ferna used to do for us.
 
I think it was more that Nunes presence was creating a more hostile atmosphere for the rest. He looked OK when he was on. He's only beeb working with Pep a few weeks.
That's how I viewed it, him being on the pitch was adding spice to a game where it really didn't need it.

Not saying it would have ended any differently had he not played at all, but it gave their fans something to get them going.
 
Wolves wanted it more than us players waiting for something to happen instead of making it happen. Hopefully just a 1 off

the whole body language of the players was wrong, it was like OK let's just get this out of the way.
Did we really test their keeper? or look like scoring other than the freekick, Maybe too many players had a bad day and with Pep in the stand they did not have Pep shouting orders at them
 
The genius of Rodri is that he plays a position that most football teams would need two players for. He breaks up play, always provides an outlet for a pass, and creatively starts and joins in with the attacks. He's basically doing what Silva and Ferna used to do for us.

The myth is the defender comes holding midfield player in John Stones, Also the inverted fullbacks gives Rodri a free role to move into places that other teams need 2 players to cover.

My fear when Rodri was sent off and missed 3 games was the injury to John Stones
 
You're quite right about what players should be able to do. It's a shame that they seem to have been unable to do it for the last couple of games. We're poor without Rodri, Bernardo and KDB.

As for 'some aspects' of Haaland's game going unnoticed, that's probably because he doesn't display them very often... He's an out and out goalscorer, that's 99.9% of his game. If his supply line is broken, he may as well not play, because the other 0.1% of his game isn't actually very good.

When it comes to contributing to the game during a barren spell, he ain't no Harry Kane, that's for sure.
Until about four years ago, Harry Kane used to get all of the 'Only touched the ball fifteen times during the game, but scored two' comments. He's since developed his game into a dropping deep occasional creator - awesome. Erling's game is all about getting into the right space at the right time - pulls defenders way out of position. Personally, I love it. Has anyone scored more this season in a spell that we're told is lacking his usual goals?
 
Until about four years ago, Harry Kane used to get all of the 'Only touched the ball fifteen times during the game, but scored two' comments. He's since developed his game into a dropping deep occasional creator - awesome. Erling's game is all about getting into the right space at the right time - pulls defenders way out of position. Personally, I love it. Has anyone scored more this season in a spell that we're told is lacking his usual goals?

It's not about Haaland 'lacking goals', every player goes through a poor spell. He'll be back scoring regularly again before we know it.

The issue for me is that he lacks the ability to play an effective 'non-scoring' role for City, and imo is not likely to be around long enough to learn to do so.

Comparison with Harry Kane is made purely because that's who Pep (apparently) wanted to sign before any move was made for Haaland.

Kane is a goalscoring footballer, who can operate very effectively from deep or from midfield - absolutely perfect for a Pep system. He's head and shoulders above Haaland in terms of all-round ability.

As I said, Haaland will be scoring regularly again soon - hopefully a few against Arsenal. It's just a shame that his supply lines have been broken recently.
 
The genius of Rodri is that he plays a position that most football teams would need two players for. He breaks up play, always provides an outlet for a pass, and creatively starts and joins in with the attacks. He's basically doing what Silva and Ferna used to do for us.
he's not superman, its just with Gundo fucking off, KDB constantly injured, Bernardo injured and makeshift midfielder Stones on the treatment table we've run out of players that used to carry us through KDB's annual leave. Just goes to show how stupid Rhodri was to react like he did over a nothing incident.
 
he's not superman, its just with Gundo fucking off, KDB constantly injured, Bernardo injured and makeshift midfielder Stones on the treatment table we've run out of players that used to carry us through KDB's annual leave. Just goes to show how stupid Rhodri was to react like he did over a nothing incident.

Rodri, not Rhodri.

We shouldn't be utterly dependent on Rodri. The team is full of star players, they should be capable of winning vs Wolves without Rodri.
 

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